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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Sue Webber

Thank you very much, everyone.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Sue Webber

The next item on our agenda is an evidence session on the additional support for learning inquiry. This is the third formal session on the inquiry, which will consider how the Education (Additional Support for Learning) (Scotland) Act 2004 has been implemented and how it is working in practice, 20 years on from being enacted.

We will focus on three themes throughout the inquiry: the implementation of the presumption of mainstreaming, the impact of Covid-19 on additional support for learning and the use of remedies, as set out in the act. Today we will focus mainly on the third theme, but we will likely touch on the first theme, too—we do tend to stray a little bit as a committee.

I welcome May Dunsmuir, president of the health and education chamber of the First-tier Tribunal for Scotland. Good morning and welcome, May. Thank you for coming, and thank you for the written submission that you provided ahead of the meeting, which has given us a great platform for our discussion.

I will move straight to questions from members, starting with Willie Rennie.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Sue Webber

I know that this is a bit like ping-pong, but Stephanie Callaghan wants to come back in.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Sue Webber

I am sometimes very protective of Bill Kidd so, if you do not mind, can we leave that subject for now and allow the member to ask the question later?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Sue Webber

You have been very good this morning, May, but we are drawing towards the end of our session.

You have talked about two parties being quite some distance apart and how, prior to them coming to the tribunal, there is a process to try to bring them closer together. In some of our other evidence, we have heard about some of the challenges and about how the tribunal process can be seen as pitting two parties against each other. How could the dispute resolution process be changed to reduce perceived, or real, conflict and to support better working between families and local authorities?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2024

Sue Webber

Members will drill into some of those themes later, so if you could just—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2024

Sue Webber

We always try to shine a spotlight on the issues, so thank you for that.

A number of you have mentioned the “Stay at home, save lives” message and how young people really took that message to heart and are still finding being back in school a source of anxiety. Irene Stove, will you comment on that? In relation to your evidence, I am keen to learn about the families aspect and the role of respite services, which were stopped and, in many cases, have not returned. Will you respond on that element of it?

09:45  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2024

Sue Webber

That is a very small question—it is like the Covid inquiry on steroids, is it not?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2024

Sue Webber

Who is next? Everyone wants to come in.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2024

Sue Webber

Thank you. Glenn, it is over to you.