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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland (Strategic Plan 2024-28)

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Sue Webber

Ruth Maguire would like to come in with a supplementary question on that theme, before we move forward.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland (Strategic Plan 2024-28)

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Sue Webber

I know that colleagues will come in on the specific theme of the education reform agenda, so you will be able to elaborate on that.

There are a couple of supplementary questions.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland (Strategic Plan 2024-28)

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Sue Webber

I will bring in Pam Duncan-Glancy. Thank you for your patience.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland (Strategic Plan 2024-28)

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Sue Webber

You have already touched on my next question, Nicola. Under the curriculum for excellence and, in particular, the broad general education, teachers and schools are expected to determine the curriculum. How do you ensure that, within that education space, schools are consistently directing towards the five elements that are listed in article 29 of the UNCRC?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland (Strategic Plan 2024-28)

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Sue Webber

On that note of making sure that children’s voices are heard, we will conclude our question session. I thank you for your evidence this morning.

That concludes the public part of our proceedings. We will suspend the meeting to allow our witnesses to leave and then we will move into private session to consider our final agenda items. Thanks very much.

11:10 Meeting continued in private until 12:12.  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland (Strategic Plan 2024-28)

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Sue Webber

Good morning and welcome to the 11th meeting in 2024 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee. We have received apologies this morning from Ross Greer.

The first item on our agenda is an evidence session on the Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland’s strategic plan for 2024 to 2028. I welcome Nicola Killean, who is the Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland. I also welcome Nick Hobbs, who is the head of advice and investigations, and Gina Wilson, who is the head of strategy, at the office of the Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland. Good morning.

I invite the commissioner to make a brief opening statement, which I understand will include a video clip highlighting how children and young people helped to develop the strategic plan. Thank you, and welcome.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland (Strategic Plan 2024-28)

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Sue Webber

It was interesting that, prior to the recess, we had a session with some young people that was facilitated by Who Cares? Scotland. Hearing from them was quite a frustrating session for us. A note about that will be published, and I would certainly direct your office to have a look at that and take great cognisance of it. They specifically said, “You just send out a survey and then we never hear from you again.” Perhaps that was that survey. We did not quite get to understand what survey they were referring to—maybe it was yours.

What role do you see the commissioner’s office having in relation to keeping the Promise by 2030? The feedback that we got was that that is quite aspirational.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland (Strategic Plan 2024-28)

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Sue Webber

That is fine, but Mr Macpherson’s supplementary questions might feed into that, too.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland (Strategic Plan 2024-28)

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Sue Webber

I would like to go back a bit. You spoke about some of the decisions that will be made about budgets and how you will always advocate for youth work and so on. How do you help young people to understand the decisions that are taken? They will not understand why those decisions have been taken. Are you doing work to help them with that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland (Strategic Plan 2024-28)

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Sue Webber

I have some questions. Before I ask specifically about the Promise, I want to ask about those whom you consulted. I am looking for some more information about how you involved care-experienced children in developing your strategy.