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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Sue Webber

Only if you follow the line of questioning that we are looking for.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Sue Webber

That is certainly the feedback that I have had from the college in Edinburgh, which is in my region. Gareth Williams, do you want to pick up on that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Sue Webber

At the outset, you said that the process involves a review every year. You have spoken about a number of parameters and said that the process is fair and transparent across the centres.

Earlier this morning, we heard that institutions are looking for budget stability and certainty. If you are modelling different things year on year, that is counterintuitive from the point of view of stability. If your modelling is different every year, that is not particularly transparent for institutions. How can they have any idea of what they will be judged on or even have a concept of what funding might be coming the next year if you are continually shifting the goalposts?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Sue Webber

We might dig into that more as this thread of the discussion goes on.

I will now bring in Pam Duncan-Glancy. I am sorry, Pam—I got a bit tongue-tied there.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Sue Webber

I am glad to hear that. I am looking at our report from 2023 and I note that, in paragraph 384, we asked

“that the SFC do all it can to accelerate work to develop and implement its Infrastructure Investment Plan”,

given our grave concerns about

“the significant level of back log and life cycle maintenance required”

for the estate.

You said that there is £30 million, with £2 million for really urgent things. Do you have a sense of the cost of the backlog maintenance? I am sure that it will be far higher than that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 June 2024

Sue Webber

I will ask about some other funding streams. The SFC initial allocations have shown that teaching funding has been protected, but other funding streams—such as the flexible workforce development fund, which was worth £10 million in the last year that it was received, in 2022-23—have been cut. What are your thoughts on the possible impact of cutting funds in that way on delivery and activity in colleges?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 June 2024

Sue Webber

I think the term is “protected”.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 June 2024

Sue Webber

Okay. Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 June 2024

Sue Webber

That brings our first evidence session this morning to a close. I thank our witnesses for their time.

10:08 Meeting suspended.  

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 June 2024

Sue Webber

We will now hear evidence from our second panel, which is on university funding. I welcome Dr Gavan Conlon, a partner with London Economics; Ellie Gomersall, president of the National Union of Students Scotland; and Mary Senior, Scotland official from the University and College Union Scotland. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for your written submissions. We will move straight to members’ questions. For this panel, we will kick off with questions from Ross Greer.