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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 August 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 3 November 2021

Sue Webber

Thank you, convener. You have said a lot about Callum. He is already a determined and passionate young man.

With the support of his family, Callum set out over the summer to walk the John Muir way from Helensburgh to Dunbar in various stages. His walk concluded in the October holidays, when I met him. He has been determined to complete that sponsored walk so that every pupil in his school could get a reusable water bottle and has succeeded. In addition, he has organised a raffle and a pyjama day to beat his financial target and allow Klean Kanteen bottles to be provided to the 185 pupils in his school in Livingston. He has written to the First Minister regarding his concerns and he has managed to get the petition here before the committee. He is absolutely delighted about that in itself. However, I am really delighted to support the campaign further.

As I said, Callum is a very determined young man and he is not finished yet. He will continue with his campaign, whatever happens, in order to reduce plastics in schools. Right now, he is at home 鈥渂ouncing off the walls鈥濃攖hose are the words of his mum鈥攂ecause he has been invited to the green zone at COP on Friday. Given what is going on in the country this week, it is only right that we support him in his ambition for every child at primary school to have a reusable water bottle.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 3 November 2021

Sue Webber

He is at Dedridge primary school in Livingston.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 November 2021

Sue Webber

Thank you for those answers. However, going back to what Jackie Baillie said earlier on and the correspondence that we received last night, that trust and confidence are still not there. That binary choice, and the one route into referral via Glasgow, will be an issue.

Although the choice of surgeon is significant, another factor is that, for whatever reason, the Glasgow service has a bad reputation among mesh survivors. What, specifically, are we doing to give women the confidence to come into the service, knowing that they will get a good outcome, wherever it might be, for whatever treatment and whatever the approach might be needed at the other end?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 November 2021

Sue Webber

Thank you; that answers my specific question.

Can you clarify whether all women will still have to refer in via NHS GGC, whether the commissioned service be the Glasgow mesh service, the site in NHS England, the potential site at Spire Healthcare, or overseas? With regard to the hierarchy鈥攖hat word might not be correct but you will understand it鈥攊s there a preferred route? If the women do not want to go to Glasgow, will we encourage them to take up the service in NHS England because it is an NHS service and the wraparound care might be more definable there, or are those choices patient driven? The matter is complicated.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 November 2021

Sue Webber

You have spoken at length, and we have heard much, about the complexity of the wraparound care that the women need. Are you satisfied that the bill and the provision for procurement of services from the private sector will not undermine the NHS in any way?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 November 2021

Sue Webber

Thank you for that answer. We know that the first point of call is often with the woman and her GP, but there are many GPs across the country. What wider publicity and training are being provided about the national mesh service, and particularly about the GPs linking into it and understanding the complications that arise from the surgery, so that they can refer women quickly and effectively into the service?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 November 2021

Sue Webber

Roseanne McDonald said that you are seeking to assess whether the clinician who will carry out the procedures in the Spire hospital in Bristol has an affiliation with an NHS trust in England. Is that because they work only privately at the moment?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 November 2021

Sue Webber

I have two questions: one about the reimbursement process and one on service commissioning for the future. We will deal with the reimbursement element first. Mr Hornby has spoken about it being a case-by-case process. We have heard from many of the witnesses about how complicated the issue of what we call wraparound costs is鈥攚e already know that the surgery is complicated, that no two cases are the same and that unexpected costs occur.

The administration of the reimbursement scheme sounds like it might be quite complex. At the same time, the payment will not be made until everything is concluded, but women will want to be reimbursed as quickly as possible. What extra resources has NSS put in to administer the scheme successfully to tie it all in for the women at the end of a traumatic period of their lives?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 November 2021

Sue Webber

NHS National Services Scotland has expressed concern that the bill might set a precedent for other groups in a similar position. What have you and your team learned from the experience to ensure that we will not have to consider similar provision for other procedures in the future?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 November 2021

Sue Webber

I have a quick question for Dr Jamieson. What is the time period between the first and second consultations? That will have a big impact when you are planning your service.