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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 21 December 2021

Sue Webber

Cabinet secretary, you spoke a bit about the lack of transparency, and you also mentioned “silly political games”. Therefore, I wonder how you would tackle something that has come from our own auditors. Audit Scotland has called for greater transparency, particularly around Covid spending, and has said:

“The Scottish Government now needs to be more proactive in showing where and how this money was spent”.

That also relates to the underspend of £292 million in the health and sport budget. We have also heard a response to that from Scottish National Party members in Westminster and your Cabinet Secretary for Finance and the Economy that the money has been carried forward. I was a bit concerned about that transparency because, when it comes to Covid spending, we see only one line for that in the budget for last year—it is not broken down into categories at all. That carry forward is not apparent anywhere in the two tables that I am looking at. Where is that carried forward money sitting in the budget that we are looking at?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 21 December 2021

Sue Webber

Thanks. I have great admiration for NHS Lothian, too.

On the capital budget, you mentioned the Baird and ANCHOR project and the Parkhead health and social care centre in Glasgow. In the past, people have levelled at me the claim that there is not enough investment in building new GP infrastructure across the country. We might get one significant general practice funded in any Government’s term of office. Will there be more detail on that in the capital investment strategy? When will that strategy be published?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 21 December 2021

Sue Webber

On the ÂŁ10 billion, you have talked about refurbishing health infrastructure. Does that specifically include technology that is within hospital infrastructure? We are talking about capital, which should include theatre tables, new theatres and buying newer and better technology. I am aware of a specific experience in Glasgow where a hospital was unable to buy a new theatre table or certain pieces of equipment but it was able to lease them at ÂŁ2,000 a time. That did not make much sense to me when I looked at the number of times that it was looking to rent versus the overall spend. I am trying to gauge what might be possible. I know that the level of capital that gets down to that granular level is not always significant enough to invest in what is needed for services.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 21 December 2021

Sue Webber

That was just an example.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 21 December 2021

Sue Webber

Earlier, I mentioned the Audit Scotland report that said that the Scottish Government needs to be more proactive in showing where and how the money has been spent in the budget in general. I am looking for support and commitment on that in relation to the importance that we are all giving to tackling drug-related deaths. Will the Scottish Government commit to publishing regular information that shows us the granular detail of how the money is being spent?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Common Framework on Public Health Protection and Health Security

Meeting date: 21 December 2021

Sue Webber

It is nice to see you today, Dr Phin. I have certainly had a lot of correspondence in my inbox about the secondary breast cancer audit, which Scottish patients are not contributing to, so I found that last question from my colleague pertinent.

I would like to ask about the key lessons that the four nations have learned from the pandemic. What policy divergence has there been, what has changed from what was done in the past and are the key lessons reflected in the framework? I am thinking in the context of the research that the Scottish Election Study published last week, which said that there was a poor understanding of the Scottish Government’s FACTS messaging compared with the “Hands, face, space” messaging that came from Public Health England. Given what we have heard about collaboration and consensus, do you think that we might be a bit more aligned in the future?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Perinatal Mental Health

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Sue Webber

That is great—thanks.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Perinatal Mental Health

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Sue Webber

Cat Berry, who was one of the witnesses at last week’s meeting, suggested that the timescales for implementation of the specialist baby loss units can and should be shortened. Do you think that that is possible, Ms Todd?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Perinatal Mental Health

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Sue Webber

Is the sound better now?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Perinatal Mental Health

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Sue Webber

I suppose that the witnesses—[Inaudible.]—very upsetting—[Inaudible.]—many of us. We heard of quite varying—[Inaudible.]—in terms of how the services are set up for people who, I am sad to say, know that they are going to give birth to a stillborn baby, and for the important moment when they have to have that conversation with healthcare professionals. What improvements are being made to ensure that parents are consistently treated with compassion across the country and in every health board, and that they are not being retraumatised when they access services later on? They are a very vulnerable group of people, so I would like to know what we are doing to drill down into those issues and to help them consistently, irrespective of where they live.