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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Sue Webber

Good morning and welcome to the 26th meeting in 2024 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee. We have apologies from Stephanie Callaghan and Evelyn Tweed. Jackie Dunbar joins us today as a substitute member, and I welcome her back.

The first item on our agenda is to decide whether to take item 4 in private. DO members agree?

Members indicated agreement.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Sue Webber

The next item on our agenda is the final evidence session in our stage 1 scrutiny of the Education (Scotland) Bill.

We will pause for a moment.

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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Sue Webber

The next item on our agenda is the final evidence session in our stage 1 scrutiny of the Education (Scotland) Bill. We will hear from the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills, Jenny Gilruth. Alongside the cabinet secretary are three Scottish Government officials. Clare Hicks is director of education reform, Jaxon Parish is team leader for new qualifications body policy, and Nico McKenzie-Juetten is a lawyer in the Scottish Government legal directorate. I welcome you all.

I invite the cabinet secretary to make an opening statement. You have up to three minutes, Ms Gilruth.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Sue Webber

There is definitely a lot of overlap going on there, John. I have a few committee members who are—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Sue Webber

It is coming up later on, Ms Farr.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Sue Webber

Pam Duncan-Glancy has a supplementary on a specific point.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Sue Webber

Good morning and welcome to the 25th meeting in 2024 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee.

We have received apologies from Stephanie Callaghan and Evelyn Tweed. Jackie Dunbar joins us again—welcome back, Jackie.

Our first agenda item is an evidence session on the Education (Scotland) Bill at stage 1. We will hear from two panels of witnesses, and I welcome our first panel. We have Gavin Yates, executive director at Connect; Megan Farr, policy officer with the Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland; and Garvin Sealy, interim executive director for Intercultural Youth Scotland.

We will go straight to questions from members. I have the opportunity to ask the first question.

It is a bit of a generic catch-all question. What are your views on the bill, and how well do the proposed structures meet your expectations, following on from the various reviews and reports of the past few years?

Gavin, you have caught my eye, so I will go to you first. That is how it works.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Sue Webber

Well, you have now done that verbally. Thank you.

Garvin, do you want to add anything?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Sue Webber

We will come on to the detail of some of the points that you have mentioned.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Sue Webber

Super. Thanks for that. As I said, we will dig into and go into more detail on some of the things that you have talked about at a high level as the questioning evolves over the morning. I will come to Pam Duncan-Glancy next.