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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 29 December 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Sue Webber

Yes, we can. It is a bit intermittent, but carry on.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Sue Webber

Thank you, Martin. That is lovely—people are chortling.

I know that you are keen to come in on this, too, Jude.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Sue Webber

I wonder whether Ross McGuffie is able to respond.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Sue Webber

Do you want to answer that question first, Louise, before we go back to Fiona? I know that Ross McGuffie wants to come in, too.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Sue Webber

The Derek Feeley report gave no indication at all of the inclusion of children’s services, so it came as quite a surprise that those services are covered.

You briefly mentioned the co-production of services. Given that co-production will probably happen after the legislation comes into force, do you see that being a challenge? Ross McGuffie alluded to co-design being bolted on earlier. Will you comment on the cart-before-horse approach to the bill?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Sue Webber

Thank you. We move to questions from Michael Marra.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Sue Webber

Jude Currie, you have been waiting patiently, and I know that you want to come in.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Sue Webber

Who is that question directed to, Stephanie?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Sue Webber

Oh, sorry.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Sue Webber

We will now take evidence from our second panel on the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill. I welcome to the meeting Martin Crewe, director of Barnardo’s Scotland, and Jude Currie, chair of the Scottish Association of Social Work. Good morning to both of you, and thank you for joining us. Our session is hybrid, and Jude Currie is participating virtually. Jude, as you will not be able to catch my eye, please put an R in the chat box when you wish to speak. The clerks will be monitoring the chat box, and we will bring you in when we can.

Let us move straight to members’ questions. We will start with questions from Stephanie Callaghan.