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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 September 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

Good morning, and welcome to the 11th meeting in 2023 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee. Under our first agenda item, we will take evidence on the Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill.

Two panels of witnesses are joining us today. I welcome our first panel: Alison Gough, director of the Good Shepherd Centre; Kevin Northcott, deputy chief executive officer of Rossie Young People’s Trust; Claire Lunday, headteacher at St Mary’s Kenmure Secure Care Centre; Gerald Michie, governor of HM Young Offenders Institution Polmont, the Scottish Prison Service; and Sue Brookes, interim director for strategy and stakeholder engagement at the Scottish Prison Service.

We have a lot of ground to cover, so we will move straight to members’ questions.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you. That is very helpful and should help our members to direct questions to the witnesses with the right expertise.

Will you outline what assessments are made when children enter a YOI or secure care establishment and what services are available immediately to deal with any issues that the children might have? Gerald Michie, do you want to go first?

09:15  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

On that aspect, we have a brief and directed supplementary from Stephen Kerr.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

We will move on to questions from Bob Doris on that theme.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

I ask for succinct responses, please—I have my eye on the clock.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

The last set of questions is from Willie Rennie.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

The public part of today’s meeting is at an end. We will consider our final item in private.

12:18 Meeting continued in private until 12:48.  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you very much.

We have had a robust discussion, this morning. Thank you for your time. We will have a short suspension to allow our witnesses to leave.

12:15 Meeting suspended.  

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

I call Kaukab Stewart.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

We will move on to questions from Michael Marra.