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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 July 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Independent Review of Qualifications and Assessment

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Sue Webber

The second item on our agenda is an evidence session on the report of the independent review of qualifications and assessment. I welcome Professor Louise Hayward, professor of educational assessment and innovation at the University of Glasgow and chair of the independent review of qualifications and assessment; Professor Ken Muir, honorary professor at the University of the West of Scotland and a member of the independent review of qualifications and assessment group; and Peter Bain, headteacher at Oban High School and a member of the independent review of qualifications and assessment group. I thank you all for joining us.

We will begin with a short opening statement from Professor Hayward. Professor, you have up to three minutes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Sue Webber

Carrie, do you want to come in, or is that more for Kirsty Flanagan?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Sue Webber

I will move on to Bill Kidd now. Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Independent Review of Qualifications and Assessment

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Sue Webber

No pressure.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Independent Review of Qualifications and Assessment

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you. This should be an exciting session, with all that experience in front of us. Thank you very much for that opening statement and for submitting the paper, which was formed around those five points.

I will ask the first question, before we move on to questions from elsewhere. We have heard a lot about the common approach that is taken in Scotland of having two or three years of externally marked exams, and how that is quite rare. What evidence do you have that that approach needs to change?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Independent Review of Qualifications and Assessment

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Sue Webber

Are you saying that there is a real disconnect between what the young people are doing in their senior phase, curriculum for excellence and that focus? It is taking me back. I have shivers down my spine from remembering all those things when I was at school.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Independent Review of Qualifications and Assessment

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Sue Webber

Liam Kerr has the final question. I am looking at the time. If we have time, there will be one more question.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Independent Review of Qualifications and Assessment

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you very much. Professor Muir, do you want to come in on that as well?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Independent Review of Qualifications and Assessment

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you very much for that scene setting.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Independent Review of Qualifications and Assessment

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you. In my role as convener, I have my eye on the clock. We are getting some really great responses from the panel, but I have to ask you to curtail your answers and keep them as concise as possible, as we still have an awful lot of questions to get through. I am sorry, because we are getting some good responses.

We will move on to some questions from Pam Duncan-Glancy about the recommendations.