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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 29 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Sue Webber

If Pam Duncan-Glancy does not mind, Stephanie Callaghan has a small supplementary question on that theme. We can go to her first.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Sue Webber

I thank the panel for those comments and suggestions.

On that theme, the committee heard concerns at stage 1 that, in situations where a child on a compulsory supervision order containing a prohibition order might be at risk of harm, the proposed changes that we are looking at would put the onus on the child to avoid people and locations that might be harmful to them. However, the Scottish Government response that we received did not address those concerns. How might the proposals be amended to better ensure that the onus to avoid certain people and locations is not put on the child who is at risk of harm? Can you go first, Fiona?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you. We now come to questions from Liam Kerr.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Sue Webber

Pam Duncan-Glancy has a wee supplementary question, then we will move to Willie Rennie.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Sue Webber

Stephen Bermingham, do you want to come in? You caught my eye there鈥攜ou had better watch.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Sue Webber

As my questions relate specifically to social work, I will direct them to Ben Farrugia. Ben, you have already alluded to the fact that, although you have the money for social workers, you do not have the social workers there鈥攊f that makes any sense. What resources will be needed to enable social work teams to implement the bill鈥檚 changes, given the restrictions鈥攐r, I should say, challenges鈥攖hat you have with regard to recruitment? We can then look at some solutions to the recruitment issue, if you do not mind.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you for sharing that. We appreciate the use of that example to flesh things out.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Sue Webber

Jillian Gibson, you are nodding away and I have been trying to catch your eye. Would you like to come in?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Sue Webber

Going back to the sequencing issue and Jillian Gibson鈥檚 eloquent explanation of the challenges and the complex things that are going on, I wonder what you are doing right now about all of this. Obviously, these things are in the future, but you must have some idea of what might be coming. Are there any key improvements that you are working on or that could be made in the meantime while we are waiting for all of this to fall into place?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Sue Webber

Does Ben Farrugia want to come in on that?