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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 28 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

Do you wish to respond to that, minister?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you for that, minister. We will move to questions from members. I will start.

The Scottish Government’s updated finances for the bill provide more money for local authorities specifically for social work. However, last week, we heard from Social Work Scotland that many social work posts are vacant and that there is no “systematic plan in place” to tackle recruitment and retention. I am also aware that, in the social work pool, when someone talented is promoted there is quite a gap in relation to those coming in and the experience of those in leadership posts in terms of the skills on the ground. What is the minister doing to tackle recruitment and retention and the skills gap between people moving through the profession?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

If the framework will be published next year and is not under your remit, that indicates the cross-portfolio nature of the bill and that there will be impacts elsewhere, with the complexities that come with that. Social work services are under pressure right now, and we have been told that, as a result of the current demands that are being faced, many people are leaving the profession. It has been identified, from people’s experiences of the children’s hearings system, that one reason why people are leaving is the complexity and size of the workload that they have to deal with. Are we doing anything to address that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

That plan will be published next year, so it will not help them right now. What are we doing to recruit and retain staff right now? We cannot afford to be bleeding social workers when the bill will require those individuals to carry out more quality work to support our young people.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

Michelle Thomson is next. Thank you for your patience, Michelle.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

You say that it is not in the public domain. When can the committee expect to have sight of that document, given that it is a really important document and given the evidence that we heard last week about the lag that is required between commencement and sequencing of the legislation?

You referred to “a host of work”, and what you mentioned related to international recruitment. “A host of work” suggests that there are many threads of work under way. What else are you doing to tackle the issue?

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you, minister. I will bring in Willie Rennie.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

Pam Duncan-Glancy has a supplementary question on the same theme.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

I have a thread in my head that I have not quite formulated yet, but for the moment I will call Ruth Maguire.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

Stephanie Callaghan has a supplementary question on this theme.