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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Sue Webber

We have a number of supplementaries on the same theme. I must ask that they be kept brief.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Post-school Education and Skills Reform

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Sue Webber

Good morning, and welcome to the first meeting in 2024 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee. Agenda item 1 is an evidence session on post-school education and skills reform with Graeme Dey, who is the Minister for Higher and Further Education; and Minister for Veterans. It is a pleasure to have you back, minister. Alongside Mr Dey, from the Scottish Government, are Lesley Ward, who is the head of public bodies governance and reform, and Jane Duffy, who is the post-school qualifications unit head. [Interruption.] That is the lighting going down.

I welcome you all and thank you for your time. I invite the minister to make some brief opening remarks before we move to questions.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Post-school Education and Skills Reform

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Sue Webber

Thank you very much for that, minister. I will kick off by picking up on what you said about decluttering the landscape and having the right change with the right sequencing. That all sounds familiar given all the reviews that have been taking place. We really want a clear road ahead for reform. How will all the recommendations of all the recent reviews be factored in? What are you looking at? What are your thoughts on addressing smaller and more peripheral reviews such as the 2020 “Scottish Technology Ecosystem Review” and the report “The Entrepreneurial Campus”?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Post-school Education and Skills Reform

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Sue Webber

Back in November, James Withers told us that cherry picking from reviews would worry him, so it would be good to know that we are not missing key elements.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Post-school Education and Skills Reform

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Sue Webber

We will be very interested in that progress, so I thank you for that commitment.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Post-school Education and Skills Reform

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Sue Webber

You are reviewing some of the unintended consequences.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Post-school Education and Skills Reform

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Sue Webber

The Scottish Government has shown a preference for funding public service pay settlements over other decisions that could have been made, so we will leave it there.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Post-school Education and Skills Reform

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Sue Webber

Okay.

As you know, I have in the past asked quite a lot of questions on behalf of the college sector about when it might have clarity on the flexible workforce development fund. Disappointingly for colleges and for me, you wrote to us on 20 and 21 December 2023 to confirm that the fund has been cut. I want to get a better understanding of why that decision was taken and of the Government’s priorities.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Post-school Education and Skills Reform

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Sue Webber

They were quite significant in-year changes. Who is to say that pressure from such in-year changes will not be placed on the sector again?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Post-school Education and Skills Reform

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Sue Webber

James Withers said that the “north star” should be what successful skills reform should look like. How will you measure, define and judge success? I know that that is a difficult question that almost puts the cart before the horse.