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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

“A Parliament for All: Report of the Parliament’s Gender Sensitive Audit”

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Martin Whitfield

Should proxy voting exist for those occasions when an individual has to step away from being an MSP for a period of time, be it short, long or otherwise? Remote voting could be used if they still wanted to participate and represent their constituents, even though they were not necessarily in this place at that time.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

“A Parliament for All: Report of the Parliament’s Gender Sensitive Audit”

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Martin Whitfield

So, if the response to that question is that there is a permissive allowance to vote remotely, that meets the requirement.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

“A Parliament for All: Report of the Parliament’s Gender Sensitive Audit”

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Martin Whitfield

We will. Thank you very much, Edward.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

“A Parliament for All: Report of the Parliament’s Gender Sensitive Audit”

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Martin Whitfield

Thank you very much.

I will go first to Evelyn Tweed, who has a series of questions. As usual, the convener’s plea at this stage is that not everyone need answer all the questions. However, if you have something to contribute, please feel free to do so.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

“A Parliament for All: Report of the Parliament’s Gender Sensitive Audit”

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Martin Whitfield

Agenda item 1 is “A Parliament for All: Report of the Parliament’s Gender Sensitive Audit”, on publication of which the Presiding Officer wrote to the committee on 2 March 2023 to highlight a number of the report’s recommendations for the committee to consider. The committee considered the recommendations in private discussions at meetings on 9 March 2023 and 1 June 2023. The committee agreed that it would take oral evidence on the report from external experts and officials. A chamber debate on the report was held on 15 June 2023. Today’s session is to take oral evidence from experts.

I welcome to the committee Professor Sarah Childs and Professor Meryl Kenny, who are professors of gender and politics at the University of Edinburgh, and Susan Duffy, who is the head of engagement and communications at the Scottish Parliament. I also welcome Karen Adam MSP, who is a member of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee and has an interest in the matter. She is attending to listen and to inquire later about the evidence that she hears, should she need to do so.

I come to Susan Duffy first, for an introduction and a synopsis of what we are likely to explore today.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

“A Parliament for All: Report of the Parliament’s Gender Sensitive Audit”

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Martin Whitfield

Evelyn, do you have any other questions?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

“A Parliament for All: Report of the Parliament’s Gender Sensitive Audit”

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Martin Whitfield

Professor Kenny, would you like to respond to Karen Adam?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

“A Parliament for All: Report of the Parliament’s Gender Sensitive Audit”

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Martin Whitfield

That was excellent.

I am afraid to say that I have some nerdy questions. I am going to plump for this one to begin with, given that, at the minute, the committee is reviewing the proxy voting procedure that has been brought in. I am asking this not so much with regard to the gender-sensitive audit but to allow you to contribute to the evidence that we will consider in due course.

You have suggested that proxy voting be extended on the same grounds as remote voting. Would you like to speak to that? After all, it is a big step on from the trial that we have run. One of our early discussions was about the fact that in this iterative Parliament—to pick up on an earlier comment—we have the ability to vote remotely and it is a choice for the individual MSP. Was there a reason for that suggestion? If I am honest, I am not aware of the reasons for extending proxy voting on the same grounds as remote voting.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

“A Parliament for All: Report of the Parliament’s Gender Sensitive Audit”

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Martin Whitfield

That is fine. I am grateful for that response.

The other part—[Interruption.] Oh—I see that Evelyn Tweed would like to come back in.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

“A Parliament for All: Report of the Parliament’s Gender Sensitive Audit”

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Martin Whitfield

Excellent. The idea of 40 per cent, a 50-50 split or whatever is—I do not say this in a derogatory way—slightly arbitrary. We actually need to look at the problem that is in front of us, and our solution might be different for each of the issues of gender balance on committees, the gender balance of conveners and gender balance on various other committees. As long as the solutions are moving us iteratively down the road—obviously, subject to what we actually come up with—that would be welcomed as a step in the right direction for the gender audit.

I see that you agree, which is good.

You may be glad to know that I have come to the end of my slightly nerdy questions. Unless any of you would like to make a short final comment, I will close this part of the meeting. Thank you very much for coming. It has been an incredibly interesting dialogue and discussion. Should the committee have other questions, I hope that you will be open to writing to us to submit your thoughts. As always, the clerks are open to discussions in a two-way format to ensure that the committee has the evidence that it needs to make the best decisions. On behalf of the committee, I thank you for your attendance.

10:21 Meeting continued in private until 11:21.