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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 August 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Dual Mandates

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Is your thinking about grace periods for all those situations predominantly around the Holyrood election and council elections? Are you confident that the timings that you arrive at will also work in a by-election situation? Someone could end up with a dual mandate because of a parliamentary by-election.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Absolutely. The Scottish Government is suggesting things rather than saying, “This is our view,” but are you content for a bill to, in essence, try to hypothesise on unknown unknowns in the future?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Dual Mandates

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

The next natural question relates to a person’s rights and privileges during the grace period. You are unable to affect what happens in institutions outside Scotland, but what is the Scottish Government’s thinking on the rights and privileges of an MSP? Should we curtail those?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Dual Mandates

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

With the exception of a law official.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Dual Mandates

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Which in itself can be a difficult task.

I thank the Government for sharing information and for the evidence that we have heard today. What has come through, not only in the evidence to the Government but subjectively—a lot of people think this—is that these are full-time roles and should be fulfilled as such. It is pertinent to address the dual mandate issue. Although the minutiae are not available to some people, it is useful to keep in mind the principle that an elected role is a full-time job and needs to be treated that way.

Minister, thank you for both your evidence sessions, and thank you to those who support you. We move into private and will reconvene in public, not before 1 pm.

10:47 Meeting continued in private.  

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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Thank you very much. I am happy to start with the questions, but I am also happy to open up to the committee if anyone has any urgent ones.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

You anticipated my next question. Do you welcome your level of flexibility or, as an explainer, is the 10 or 5 per cent rule much easier for people to understand, even though they may not agree with it?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Good morning. I welcome everyone to the 10th meeting in 2025 of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee. I have received apologies from Ruth Maguire, and I welcome Rona Mackay who is attending as her substitute. I have also received apologies from Annie Wells.

Our first item of business is a decision on whether to take in private agenda items 4 and 6, which will be discussions of the evidence that we will hear today. Are we agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Under agenda item 2, the committee will continue its stage 1 consideration of the Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill. I welcome the Minister for Parliamentary Business, Jamie Hepburn, and his supporting officials, Leila Brosnan, shadow bill team leader; Ailsa Kemp, Parliament and legislation unit team leader; and Jordan McGrory, a solicitor from the legal directorate. I also welcome Graham Simpson, the member in charge of the bill. Minister, I invite you to make some opening comments.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

That is fine—very sensible. I am coming to the end of my questions—I hope that you will be disappointed to learn that, but I fear that you will not.

The regional rules are much more explicit than the constituency rules. They are far easier to understand, because we have to group entire constituencies into the regions. Sue Webber prompted a discussion earlier about the challenge that then comes for local authorities, where part of a local authority area is in one region and the rest of it is in another region. That adds to my previous point about one MSP representing a constituency in three different local authority areas, because we could have up to 15 other ˿ interested in an issue. From a purely administrative, common-sense point of view, that is a very big round table to bring together to discuss problems—let me put it that way.

Do you have any comments on the consequences of the choices that are made by Boundaries Scotland? The effect on local authorities is not part of your tests—you need not take account of that if you follow the four rules—but are you conscious of that effect and do you have any concerns about it?

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