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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 August 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Correspondence (Proxy Voting)

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Martin Whitfield

That is helpful. The committee has strongly backed iterative change with regard to the development of hybrid meetings, and it would be helpful if the trial were to incorporate something that could be looked at in that regard as matters progress.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Correspondence (Proxy Voting)

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Martin Whitfield

If the relationship between the person who grants the proxy and the person who casts it was abused in that way鈥攁lbeit never to prejudge a situation鈥攖he requirement in the code of conduct not to be discourteous or disrespectful would seem to apply fully fairly and squarely. The relationship between the person who holds the proxy and the one who has granted it has to be based on trust. That is one of the fundamental principles of the Parliament. I imagine that there would be comeback, probably in many forms.

Similarly, in situations both in this session and in previous sessions where a vote has been cast in the wrong way, it has always been available to a member to put their intent on the record, through a point of order. Obviously, that does not change the count of the vote at the time, because of the need for certainty.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Correspondence (Proxy Voting)

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Martin Whitfield

It is interesting that you make those two points at the same time. We know that, with stage 3 amendments, there will not be time to pop out and have lengthy phone calls about how to exercise a proxy vote. The responsibility is based on a relationship of trust.

In relation to how many proxies members can hold and whether they are doing the right thing by holding more than one, we heard very strong evidence that proxy voting must not be used to create a block vote, which has happened in other Parliaments. I do not think that we heard any evidence in support of block voting. Indeed, some people who were able to vote in that way were adamant that they did not want to have the ability to exercise a block vote. I agree on that.

Mention has been made of people not being able to have a proxy vote for more than two members. Given the current set-up of the parties and the fact that there are no independent members in Parliament in this session, that would work for all the parties. Certainly for the trial period, two seems to be a sensible number. It might be the case that someone who holds two proxies says that it is just too hard and that it should be possible to hold only one. We can look at that at the end of the session.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Correspondence (Proxy Voting)

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Martin Whitfield

As you said, we should ensure that that engagement continues. Are we content with that?

Members indicated agreement.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Correspondence (Proxy Voting)

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Martin Whitfield

As we have discussed, the last issue comes back to what happens when it goes wrong. There is a very high onus of trust and honesty on people when they become an MSP. I am quite taken by the suggestions from Edward and Bob to include something in the guidance to remind members of the high level of expectation on them and the fact that, when one member holds a proxy, the relationship of trust between two people goes above and beyond the role of the individual MSP.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Martin Whitfield

I can confirm that. Even if that were the intention at this stage, we could still overrule that at a later meeting in order to hold in public an evidence session or, indeed, our consideration.

Are members content to take agenda items 4, 5 and 6 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Martin Whitfield

That is very helpful.

I note from the completed registration form that a number of existing CPGs that cover some but not all of the intended purposes of the proposed CPG have been identified. I appreciate the evidence that you have given on outreach with regard to stakeholders and other 成人快手. Has there been any formal contact yet with existing CPGs about the potential for joint work?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Martin Whitfield

I thank you for your comment on the responsibility that you and your office would have with regard to the CPG. We might address that aspect at the end of the meeting, although not specifically in relation to your proposed CPG.

Do members have any questions?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Martin Whitfield

Excellent.

Thank you for attending this morning. The committee will consider the application at its next agenda item, and the clerks will notify you in due course. I wish you all the very best for the rest of today.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Martin Whitfield

Would you like to explain the purposes and ideas behind your proposed CPG?