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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 December 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Sharon Dowey

You want there to be a higher threshold. Even if people who have committed such serious offences do not plead guilty in advance, would there not be more evidence in those cases to get a guilty verdict?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Sharon Dowey

So, there needs to be more detail on how it would work.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Sharon Dowey

Should the register have only the top 3 per cent of offenders in it, or should it be opened up to more people? I thought that you were suggesting in your submission that you wanted the register to include more people.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Sharon Dowey

If you had more detail on how the proposed system would fit in with the current structures, do you think that it could be beneficial?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Sharon Dowey

I want to ask about the reporting requirements under section 1, on which there are differing opinions. In its submission, COPFS said that restricting the definition of people who would be on the register to those who had been sentenced to

“12 months or more in prison or … a community payback order … is potentially confusing and is inconsistent with the importance placed by criminal justice agencies and third sector organisations in Scotland of a consistent definition of domestic abuse.”

However, would the bill not mean that being put on the register would become a deterrent to somebody who had a lesser charge—perhaps somebody who was a first offender? COPFS said that it wants more people to be involved, but that might lead to more bureaucracy, whereas the bill is intended for high-level offenders.

Meanwhile, the Law Society said:

“We consider that the proposed provisions in Part 1 could create a real risk of labelling people as inherently dangerous … In our view, a higher threshold for registration would produce a more meaningful register”.

Should the bill ensure that only those who pose a higher level of risk would go on the register, as opposed to what it proposes at the moment?

Finally, Police Scotland said:

“On review of Part 1 to the bill, we are not of the opinion that the significant investment of budget and resources needed to meet its requirements are proportionate”.

If you had the resources required, would what is proposed in the bill fill a gap in the system, with the result that you would be more supportive of the bill?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Sharon Dowey

Yes—thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Sharon Dowey

You covered some of this in your responses to Rona Mackay, but do you have any comments on the financial and resource aspects of the bill that you have not already raised?

On 25 June, we heard from Pam Gosal MSP that the “maximum cost” of the bill would be £23 million but that the investment would be worth making because it would achieve an estimated £7 billion in savings by reducing domestic abuse offending costs. Is £23 million a realistic figure? Should other things be considered in the financial memorandum? Do you have any other comments?

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Sharon Dowey

I am sure that a lot of organisations would make good use of it. However, comments were made about whether a specialist person coming in and delivering education rather than a schoolteacher would be preferable. Are such costs addressed? Do we need to put more funding in, given the potential savings? We heard that the bill’s provisions would cost £23 million but that £7 billion would be saved by reducing domestic abuse reoffending.

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Sharon Dowey

I have one final question. Earlier, you said that colleagues in the public sector had concerns about the amount of bureaucracy involved. Could that be addressed by extra funding? Could you tell us concisely what the public sector concerns were and who they came from?

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Sharon Dowey

That is fine.

I have a question about older firefighters and the fitness test. Is that a concern? I have heard reports that the fitness level for younger firefighters is the same as that for older ones and that, if the level was changed slightly, we might keep more people operational.