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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 11 August 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill:Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 May 2024

Sharon Dowey

As I said, the bill requires more regulations. However, we heard from the Scottish Police Federation that current performance and misconduct regulations have never been used. Do we need to look more at performance management within Police Scotland to ensure that it is using the tools that it already has?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Sharon Dowey

There were suggestions that the police were reluctant to give information, but, based on what you said earlier, it seems that the relationship has improved. The bill intends to give the PIRC access to the police’s electronic database relating to complaints. Will that help to speed things up?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Sharon Dowey

If you do not have any evidence, how do you know what to do?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Sharon Dowey

Is the communication with the police officer who has been accused more to do with police procedure?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Sharon Dowey

Okay. How do you decide who should investigate between the PSD, the PIRC or another police force, and why would it be necessary for a case to go to another police force and not just stay with the PIRC?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Sharon Dowey

That is fine. Why would it go to another police force?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Sharon Dowey

One of the biggest complaints that we have heard is about the time it takes to do many of those things. HM chief inspector of constabulary said that it

“takes far too long for the Criminal Justice organisations to investigate criminal complaints”

and that

“There is a general lack of pace applied to the investigation.”

He also said that there was a

“Lack of communication between the three parties involved (Police Scotland, PIRC and COPFS)”.

Do you think that the bill will reduce those timescales?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Sharon Dowey

So you have not come across anything like that when you have done investigations.

In an earlier session, we heard evidence that Police Scotland’s professional standards department should not carry out preliminary assessments of complaints against officers, because it is not independent. Would the PIRC, if it was given sufficient resources, be in a better place to carry out those assessments to avoid any perceived or actual bias?

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Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Sharon Dowey

A previous witness told the committee that Police Scotland took one year to investigate a complaint and that the PIRC then took the best part of a year to review it. Is there a target that the PIRC aims to meet when reviewing complaints made against officers from members of the public?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Sharon Dowey

Can I ask another quick question, convener?