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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 August 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 27 January 2022

Craig Hoy

To delve a little bit deeper on leadership and governance, paragraph 9 on page 4 of the section 22 report highlights that the acting accountable officer of the commissioner’s office concludes that she is

“not satisfied that an effective scheme of governance operated during 2020/21.”

The external auditor also concludes in the annual audit report that the governance and scrutiny arrangements were ineffective during that period and that they are not currently sufficient to deliver best value.

Noting those very serious issues in relation to leadership and governance, to what extent is the 2020-21 picture different from the assessment that was made in the prior reporting period?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 27 January 2022

Craig Hoy

In paragraph 23 of the report, you set out rather clearly that some of the most basic governance processes and functions were absent from the commissioner’s office during 2020-21. Indeed, we just heard, there was no defined performance management framework, risk management policy, risk register or internal audit function. Did the auditors have any growing concerns about the way that the commissioner’s office was operating before the 2020-21 reporting and performance period?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 27 January 2022

Craig Hoy

This might be a more abstract and philosophical question, but, as you look forward, what level of underspend would give you cause for concern?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 27 January 2022

Craig Hoy

Good morning. As far as financial management is concerned, it has been broadly recognised that, because of Covid, the Government’s budget was going to be fluid and perhaps more complex. However, I want to look at last year’s underspend of about £518 million, which comes principally from the health and sport and transport, infrastructure and connectivity budgets. In the light of Covid and the associated fluid situation, do you consider the level of underspend that has been reported to be reasonable?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 27 January 2022

Craig Hoy

It is less than 1 per cent of a change.

Next year’s budget is being debated in Parliament at the moment, but the Government has flexibility in where it can direct the underspend. Have you looked sufficiently at the budget to know whether the money will be moved to other portfolios, or are we confident that it will stay broadly under the health and transport headings?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 27 January 2022

Craig Hoy

The overspends are relatively modest. Do you have any comment to make on the overspend in the economy, fair work and culture portfolio—which was £53 million—and the overspend in the education and skills portfolio? Have you had the opportunity to drill down into the reasons for those overspends?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 27 January 2022

Craig Hoy

There was a view that there was a clear need for training. Has that training started in a meaningful way and are you assured that it will meet current needs and concerns?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 20 January 2022

Craig Hoy

When Stephen Boyle was before the committee, we talked with him about the potential impact of a further delay in the census. The decisions of the past 48 hours, and the Covid data that has emerged, probably mean that that is less likely to happen. Nevertheless, could you give me a flavour of the options that NRS has considered for the census if lockdown restrictions return? In addition, have any resources or money been committed to contingency planning in that regard?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 20 January 2022

Craig Hoy

Good morning, Stephen. I do not want to put you on the spot, and I am not sure how good your live tracking presently is in relation to the new round of business support, but about ÂŁ375 million of support for business was announced in December. The general impression that I am getting through my postbag and from talking to people in hospitality businesses and suchlike is that the money is slower in going out the door than it was before.

On Tuesday, the First Minister said:

“we are working with local authorities and other agencies to get the money out the door and into the bank accounts of those who need it as quickly as possible. However, there are checks and processes that have to be applied to guard against fraud.”—[Official Report, 18 January 2022; c 22.]

Do you have any impression of whether it is taking longer to process this current round? Is that because lessons have been learned and further checks and balances have been put into the process? Could there be other reasons for the delay in this round of disbursements?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 20 January 2022

Craig Hoy

Thank you very much.