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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 26 December 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Craig Hoy

Maybe you bought peace too generously.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Craig Hoy

Thank you for your forbearance, convener.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Craig Hoy

Good morning, cabinet secretary. With regard to your Government’s philosophical position on welfare spending, do you see it as a mark of success that the number of people who are in receipt of benefits goes up, or is the mark of success that the number of people in Scotland who are in receipt of benefits goes down over the long term?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Craig Hoy

You have said that, at the heart of the benefits system, there should be fairness and respect. What does it say to taxpayers about your Government’s approach to showing them fairness and respect that it seems unwilling to pursue £36 million of welfare expenditure that was either mispaid or claimed through fraud?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Craig Hoy

Would you expect that figure to fall over time, proportionally, as a percentage of the benefits bill?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Craig Hoy

The First Minister has set lifting children out of poverty as one of the central pillars of his Government. The graph in the SPICe paper from last July says that, after the Scottish child payment had been paid, 25 per cent of children were still below the poverty line and 75 per cent were above the poverty line. A significant number of children were above the poverty line prior to being in receipt of the Scottish child payment. If you are serious about eradicating child poverty, would it not be bolder if you were to address the needs of those who are effectively below the poverty line, rather than the needs of those who fall below the UK median income?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Craig Hoy

Would you say that your Government is better at getting people on to benefits than it is at getting people off them?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Craig Hoy

I think that colleagues might want you to do so.

In relation to the work to lift children out of poverty, the Scottish child payment has been welcomed by a number of third sector groups and independent analysts, but I want to talk about those above the poverty line who are in receipt of the payment. You will be aware that, last July, SPICe prepared a paper that contained a graph that showed that more Scottish child payment recipients are above the poverty line than are below it. Do you not think that, if the Scottish child payment was better targeted, you could be more effective in lifting children above the poverty line, rather than measuring its performance against recipients’ average disposable incomes after housing costs?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Craig Hoy

I will take Andy Witty back to labour market participation. In your response to our question 6, you say:

“Barriers to work in Scotland are well understood and preventative spend, particularly investment in childcare, would bring about more labour market participation.â€

With the significant investment in the 1,140 hours of free childcare programme, have you seen any demonstrable shift towards an increase in labour market participation among the target group that would give you confidence to say that further investment would yield a benefit?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Craig Hoy

Elaine Morrison, we touched on this issue earlier, but a lot of SMEs and a lot of sectors, such as life sciences, report that raising capital and funds in Scotland is difficult. In the Scottish public sector—in local government, for example—£65 billion is sitting in pension funds. Some of that ends up being invested in the life sciences industry in Australia, for example, through traditional pension investment portfolios, but there seems to be reluctance among public sector pension funds to put money into early-stage investments in, for example, life sciences here in Scotland, although there have been examples of that. For example, the Strathclyde pension fund used a specialist venture capital fund to invest, resulting in a win-win situation of attracting jobs to Strathclyde and a getting a return on its investment. What more could be done, for public infrastructure but also for those sectors that are seeking access to cash in Scotland, to lean on public sector pensions more, and what discussions have you had with Governments or pension funds to bring that culture about?