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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 August 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Mercedes Villalba

Last week, we heard from Elaine Whyte of the Clyde Fishermen’s Association. When I asked her about the report, she said that those four reports were “nothing to do with” the Clyde Fishermen’s Association. She also said:

“we have nothing to do with the science. We just let the others use our vessels.”—[Official Report, Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee, 2 March 2022; c 18.]

If it is not the responsibility of the CFA, the Government or Marine Scotland science, whose responsibility is it to publish those findings and make them publicly available? Is it the responsibility of the University of St Andrews?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Mercedes Villalba

Are you able to share with the committee exactly where the spawning cod were found? The consultation document says that they were found “in the closed area”. From what you have seen in the study, are you able to give us a specific location?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Mercedes Villalba

You could always follow that up afterwards.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Mercedes Villalba

So, rather than allow—

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Mercedes Villalba

Dr Needle, you are nodding.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Mercedes Villalba

I am not sure how everything works, but I will say what I think.

The closure has not been introduced fairly. I would like the Government to go away, rethink it and bring it back, if that is an option. If we need to annul the order for that to happen, on balance I support that.

I am concerned about the evidence base. I am supportive of a precautionary approach, but that needs to be balanced with economic factors and livelihoods. The Government has not got the balance right on that.

During the meeting, I have been looking at the research papers that were cited, and I cannot even see that thing about 5m to 10m above the sea bed; it seems to be based on tidal activity rather than fishing. I just do not feel that, on the whole, the approach is right. I therefore support the motion to annul.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Mercedes Villalba

Good morning. I think that I have understood this. You are saying that bycatch is the biggest of the main factors that impact on cod spawning that we have potential to do something about. With that in mind, can spatial management be a tool to reduce trawling bycatch? Is differentiation between different types of fishing in different areas a useful route to go down?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Mercedes Villalba

I have a quick question for Simon Macdonald. You seemed to suggest that predators, rather than fishers, are having the biggest impact on cod stock. However, research that I have seen from Marine Scotland science, in conjunction with the European Commission, states that

“a drastic reduction of juvenile whiting bycatch is necessary for the ... stock to recover”

and that

“Predation from grey seals had little impact overall”.

Will you share the evidence for your statement with the committee?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Mercedes Villalba

You have not seen the reports.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Mercedes Villalba

It was published in February 2019.

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