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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 May 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thank you, Stuart. That is interesting.

Liz, you spoke about the just economic transition, and you were clear that that is how you would phrase it. We have heard already this morning about the importance of having a shared understanding of what that means. I am curious as to why you use the term “just economic transition” rather than “just transition”. Why is that how you frame it?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Maggie Chapman

I am curious, because my understanding—many people’s understanding—of the phrase “just transition” recognises the vital importance of social infrastructure such as healthcare, social care and culture. I understand what you have said about the economy underpinning that, but those things underpin the people who drive the economy. We are almost trying to go deeper. I am curious to understand what you think your members’ roles are in ensuring that we do not just focus on the economic aspects but look at, as the Just Transition Commission urges us, the social infrastructure that underpins society, which is much bigger than just the economy.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Maggie Chapman

Okay, thanks. I know that the convener wants to make progress so I will stop there.

10:30  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Maggie Chapman

Good morning to all of you who have joined us this morning; thank you for being here.

Following on from Colin Beattie’s questions, I might have different views of some of the new technologies that you have just talked about, Stuart, and the risks associated with them, particularly in relation to the potential displacement of activity and resource for technologies that we know are carbon neutral now. You talked about the different facets of the petrochemical industries. There is a continued drag on carbon emissions because of a continued reliance of CCUS and hydrogen on that petrochemical extraction.

One question that I am interested in is the need for test sites—demonstration sites—which is talked about in the just transition commission report. What is your view of the risks of what we currently have at Grangemouth and the risks of the different technologies that we have either not been proving or not been trying to prove the concept of over the past 20 years? What new and genuinely carbon-neutral technologies have potential at Grangemouth?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Maggie Chapman

Okay. Thank you. I accept what you say about the first part of my question. Can I explore the demonstrator capabilities for the supply chain a bit more? What else are you looking for? That is similar to the enabler question but specifically for the supply chain.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Youth Parliament Equalities and Human Rights Committee

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Maggie Chapman

The third item on our agenda is to hear virtually from the convener and deputy convener of the Scottish Youth Parliament’s Equalities and Human Rights Committee. They will provide an update on areas that we previously discussed with them. I welcome to the meeting Ramiza Ahmad MSYP and Zainab Adeleye MSYP, respectively convener and deputy convener of the Equalities and Human Rights Committee of the Scottish Youth Parliament. You are very welcome.

Members will recall Ramiza and Zainab from our business planning day in September. We are keen to hear what you have to say. Either of you can respond to any of the questions that we might ask, but if there is something that one of you is really keen to say, please type “R” in the chat box, and I will come to you when I can.

I refer members to papers 1 and 2, and I invite Ramiza and Zainab to make some opening remarks.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Minimum Core Obligations

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Maggie Chapman

Rachael wants to come in with a brief supplementary, and then I will come back to you, Pam.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Minimum Core Obligations

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Maggie Chapman

Okay.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Minimum Core Obligations

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thank you. That was useful.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Minimum Core Obligations

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Maggie Chapman

Fulton, you broke up a little there. Ali and Luis, did you get the question, or do you want Fulton to repeat it?