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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 May 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Maggie Chapman

It matters.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thank you. Those are really interesting ideas. I could go on, but I will not.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Maggie Chapman

I will do the same—I am a member of Unite.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Maggie Chapman

Dominic Pritchard, you talked about companies’ failure to recognise trade unions. Other than applying political pressure, what role do you see for us in supporting a worker-led just transition?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Maggie Chapman

What can we do to help with that? You are right that it is a challenge. If the Grangemouth model is working, how can we transfer it? What are the barriers that prevent that happening?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Maggie Chapman

How do we ensure that contracted workers and the transient workforce are brought into those conversations? What do we need to do?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Maggie Chapman

Pat Rafferty and Dominic Pritchard talked about Burntisland Fabrications. Given the job losses that have happened over successive periods, what should the Scottish Government and other public bodies and agencies do to prevent that kind of job loss from happening again at BiFab or equivalent sites elsewhere?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Maggie Chapman

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. I will pick up on a couple of points in Unite’s submission, which states that the just transition “must be worker led”. You have also talked about some of the issues that you face. Will you give us more detail about what worker leadership looks like, what is missing and what we can do to ensure that we get a worker-led just transition?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Maggie Chapman

Are you sure that you want that on the record? [Laughter.]

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Maggie Chapman

I agree with the sentiment that Karen Adam just expressed. Because of the petition, we have been able to consider Makaton and some other issues that we might not have considered before.

Thinking specifically about the petition, I know that we can close it, keep it open or widen the work around it. My concern with closing it now, as it stands, is that I am not sure whether that closes the loop for the petitioner. We sent her the Scottish Government’s response, but I would like to give her the opportunity to come back to us with any final comments.

I also think that there is something in that wider work that Karen talked about. The balance that we see in the papers between the issues of accessibility and judicial rigour is really important—the line is quite narrow, in some ways. I would like to see us explore, not only in the area of justice but in other areas, how we can bring Makaton much more into our understanding of accessible communication and the knock-on consequences for the public services that we rely on.

I would like us to keep the petition open for now in order to give Sandra Docherty an opportunity to come back to us, but I would also like us to say that we see the petition as kicking off a wider body of work. Then, in the coming weeks or months, or however long it takes, we can see how to take that forward.