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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 December 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Maggie Chapman

Sorry鈥攜es. I left off three zeros there.

Are you able to provide updated student numbers? Everyone has gone through matriculation, and my understanding is that the numbers are better than expected or are not as bad as projected.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Maggie Chapman

Okay. My follow-on question, which I appreciate you might not be able to answer, concerns what role the unions had in the discussions around the creation of that statement. I ask that because, at a meeting to discuss the fair work statement, union representatives pushed back and challenged it, because it did not refer to the Gillies report and the clear recommendations therein, and did not mention the need to improve relationships with the trade unions. However, those discussions have been ignored鈥攖hose points have not been incorporated into the statement or into the recommendations that flow from that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Maggie Chapman

Okay鈥攖hank you. I could go on, but I will not.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Maggie Chapman

That would be helpful.

My next question about numbers is on job losses. Nigel Seaton spoke earlier about the total difference in staff numbers being 275. The numbers that I have been able to get, looking across the past 15 months or so, show that, in August 2024, there were 4,367 staff and that, after the voluntary severance scheme this year, there were 3,698 staff, which is a change of 669. I appreciate that some of those staff will have been part time, so the headcount does not equal FTE posts. It would be helpful if the committee could get clarity鈥攏ot necessarily now, but in the coming days鈥攐n that detail. What role will the more than 200 unfilled vacancies play in the figure of 669, or in the way that you describe or define the 275 figure?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Maggie Chapman

I will stay on finance, but address a slightly different point. Lee Hamill might be best placed to answer the question, but Professor Seaton should feel free to come in. We have talked about loans, grants and various conditions. What is the breakdown of the different chunks of money that exist in loan offers and grant offers from the Government through the SFC?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Maggie Chapman

Will the conditions of the loan detail the repayment plan?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Maggie Chapman

Thank you for that offer, but you might regret making it publicly.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Maggie Chapman

I mean what is your understanding of fair work as a university principal who has responsibility for the wellbeing of more than 3,000 members of staff?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Maggie Chapman

So, it has been better than projected, and that is down to the hard work of the recruitment team that is made up of the academic and other staff who are facing job cuts.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Maggie Chapman

It would be useful to see the numbers.