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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 August 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Maggie Chapman

I echo Paul O’Kane’s comments. In the evidence that we gathered for stage 1, we heard people’s very real concerns about the intention or otherwise to mislead people by using certain titles. As Paul O’Kane indicated, the amendments in the group satisfy those concerns and give the protections that we wanted for consumers. I therefore thank the minister for lodging them and I, too, will support them.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Maggie Chapman

I thank Tess White and Paul O’Kane for the discussion, because it is useful for us to air our views.

I ask the minister to talk specifically about the concerns that the committee raised in our stage 1 report because of the evidence that we received, which Paul O’Kane referred to, on the complexity of the matter and how the minister’s proposals in the bill will achieve what she says they will, given the complex nature of streamlining the arrangements. I do not think that we have the overall picture when we look at the amendments in the group, so it would be helpful if the minister would respond to Tess White’s questions and clarify why that complexity cannot be dealt with in the way that the amendments suggest.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Maggie Chapman

Good morning, minister. With regard to amendments 40, 41 and 42, the named regulatory authorities need carry out their regulatory duty only so far as practicable. Can you say more about the general understanding of the term, “so far as practicable”, so that we have clarity on that point?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Maggie Chapman

Thank you. I thought that it would be helpful to have that on the record.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Maggie Chapman

Good morning. Thank you for joining us and for your comments so far. Just so that everybody is aware, as a member of the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body I am familiar with some of what has already been talked about.

I will follow on from Evelyn Tweed’s questions about the shift that you talked about from awareness raising and education to accountability. Angela, you came in a few months ago to a set but new strategic plan. Were there things that you looked at and thought that the commission still needed to do—perhaps things that it had been doing previously or things that just had not been done? In the on-going review of priorities, how do you make sure that you are capturing the stuff that you would have put in the strategic plan had you been chair when it was developed?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Maggie Chapman

Thanks for that. You talked about mandate, and there are some questions on your existing mandate and powers. The commission has previously said that there is very limited use of powers of inquiry, both in terms of whether the commission has used them and also what you could do with what is there. I do not think that you have done very much litigation work in recent times. Could you give us a sense of how the work that you have been able to do, particularly the spotlight work, relates to and opens up the possibility of our thinking more broadly around your mandate? Obviously, we want to have that discussion as part of the human rights bill, but are there things that we could push to the boundaries of what exists, to make sure that, either through litigation or through inquiry, the excellent work that you have done—such as the spotlights or the work on prisoner rights—can follow through to something meaningful and with that strand of accountability running through it?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Maggie Chapman

Jan, do you want to say something about the historical use of litigation and where it might be useful in the coming months or years?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Maggie Chapman

That is helpful. In some ways, there is quite a big conversation around the litigation powers, particularly if the non-overlap remains, because obviously there need to be mechanisms of communication and information-sharing with other organisations, whether they are commissions or have responsibility to check or bear duties. There is quite a complex system that we maybe have not got to grips with yet, so that is an on-going conversation.

My next question is about Scotland’s national action plan 2. I know that Scotland’s national action plan for human rights runs to 2030 and that the Scottish Government owns that. Tell us a little bit about what role that plays. You have spoken already this morning about ensuring that you are responsive and that you scan potential issues. How do your strategic priorities fit in and dovetail with SNAP 2? Where are the points of friction, if points of friction exist? I do not know who wants to take that first.

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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Maggie Chapman

The opportunity for reciprocity is quite exciting—not overlapping, but using each other to the benefit of citizens in those targeted groups across Scotland. I will leave it there, thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Maggie Chapman

Can I come back in on that briefly, convener?