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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 June 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Maggie Chapman

Thank you. Alana, do you want to come back in?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Maggie Chapman

Does Lucy Clark want to say anything about the second plan?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Maggie Chapman

Those specific points are helpful, as we will have to make recommendations to the Government after this inquiry.

I am curious about your response to a question that is similar to one that I asked Jemina Napier. Your focus, clearly, is on education and the full suite of concerns around that. What else needs to work for your strategic priorities through the plan to be realised?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Maggie Chapman

That was helpful鈥攖hank you. This is my final question. Off the back of some of the discussions that we had with the previous panel, there is a sense that having a second version of the national advisory group鈥擭AG mark 2鈥攚ould help to drive forward the national plan. That might help with the development of some of the issues that you have highlighted should be implemented now rather than waiting until the third plan. I wondered whether any of you had any views on that as a way of driving development of the national plan. Jemina Napier, do you want to come in first?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Maggie Chapman

Thank you. Rachel O鈥橬eill, do you want to come in?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Maggie Chapman

My final question for you, Avril, is about the NAG. Would it be feasible for that to help to support the second plan as it goes through? Could we establish NAG part 2 now and have it make robust and important interventions to the second plan?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Maggie Chapman

Does the second plan even attempt to address those things or is it largely silent on them?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Maggie Chapman

Good morning, and thank you for joining us. We have started talking about the national BSL plans, and I am interested in people鈥檚 views on the second plan. We know that it recognises key issues for many BSL users, but there are concerns that it lacks focus and does not have measurable goals or timescales. You have already alluded to some of that in your opening comments, but there is also a criticism that it was watered down compared to the draft that people saw initially. Lucy Clark, what are your views of the second national plan?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Maggie Chapman

Thank you. I know that Avril Hepner wants to come back in.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Maggie Chapman

That is really helpful鈥攖hank you. Following on from that, are there things in the plan that need to be prioritised and should happen first? I know that, broadly speaking, certain things will happen in the first year or the second year and so on. However, being strategic, and in the mapping or analysis of what is missing, are there things that need to be prioritised?