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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 26 December 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Miners’ Strike (Pardons) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Maggie Chapman

Good morning and happy new year to everybody. I thank the witnesses for being with us this morning. I am sorry that we cannot meet in person.

As Pam Duncan-Glancy and Fulton MacGregor did, I express my solidarity with the miners, their families and the communities that were affected and which continue to be affected by what happened in the 1980s. I was not in the country at the time; I was growing up in Zimbabwe, but the strike permeated our media in southern Africa.

Like Fulton MacGregor, I think that the bill is long overdue and I look forward to supporting its progress through the Parliament over the next wee while. We have had quite a lot of discussion about the scope of its definition of “miner” and the constraints placed on which offences are included. I thank Jim Phillips for outlining some of his critiques of those constraints. We will return to them. I was going to explore them a bit further but they have been covered, so I will turn to justice issues.

Bob Young and Alex Bennett mentioned that they had been dismissed as strikers. Alex Bennett said in his opening remarks that he had been arrested. I ask them to describe for us their experience of the police and the justice system.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Miners’ Strike (Pardons) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Maggie Chapman

Thank you for that, Alex.

Bob, do you want to say something about justice and about how all of that was handled?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Miners’ Strike (Pardons) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Maggie Chapman

Thank you, Bob.

I have a final wee question for Jim Phillips. From your research, Jim, and from the people you have spoken to and the work that you have done, what is your view of how the justice system functioned? In your view, was it fair? Did it deal with the situation appropriately, or were there significant issues with the justice system through all of it?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Miners’ Strike (Pardons) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Maggie Chapman

Tom, you spoke about it being the police’s role to protect the rights of people who are going about their business. Miners and striking miners were going about their business. Will you give us more of a flavour of when violence occurred? What were the flash points? You talked about trade unionists leading from the front. We have all seen the pretty horrific video footage of some of the violence that happened on picket lines. Will you give us more of a sense of how those incidents arose?

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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Miners’ Strike (Pardons) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Maggie Chapman

Thank you both for your helpful responses.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Miners’ Strike (Pardons) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Maggie Chapman

Thank you for laying that out so clearly. I will leave it there.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Supply Chain

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Maggie Chapman

Good morning, witnesses. Thank you for being with us.

I have a couple of questions. Nick Shields was just talking about innovation and the need to change our technologies, and you have all touched on resilience issues around diversification and adaptation, such as being adaptable and flexible, as well as skills. Will you say a bit more about the level of innovation activities across your areas, particularly on developing processes and technologies that will help us to address supply chain issues? What is there at the moment? What do you think that we need? How do we incentivise innovations? I am particularly interested in innovations that lead directly to supply chain resilience and supporting industries that we can sustain through volatile circumstances and times. That question goes first to Nick Shields, then to Keith Ridgway then Iain Bomphray.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Supply Chain

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Maggie Chapman

Thank you. I ask Keith Ridgway the same questions about innovation, resilience and what we need to support the technologies that we are talking about.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Supply Chain

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Maggie Chapman

That is helpful.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Supply Chain

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Maggie Chapman

Thank you for that answer. While you were speaking, I was wondering about connections. You said that the National Manufacturing Institute Scotland is really valuable. What are the interactions and relationships with not just further education but higher education? I am aware that quite a lot of university resource is going into innovation. Universities are bringing in partners from around the UK and, actually, around the world to focus on that. Are there structures or facilities that we could think about to ensure that we bring people together in an effective way?