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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 May 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 20 April 2022

Maggie Chapman

That was really helpful鈥攖hanks very much. I will leave it there, convener.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children鈥檚 Participation in Court Decision Making

Meeting date: 19 April 2022

Maggie Chapman

Good morning to you both, and thank you for joining us this morning. I have a couple of questions that build on some of your comments about how we hear children鈥檚 voices and how we give those voices their due weight as the UNCRC requires. In Glasgow, there are specialised hearings suites for criminal cases, and I wonder whether you have any thoughts about using pre-recordings, or giving evidence remotely, although I take on board what Sarah Axford said about some of the issues that people have with virtual hearings. Do such specialised hearings suites offer sheriff courts as well as criminal courts the opportunity to enable the child to participate in a safe space and more relaxed environment?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children鈥檚 Participation in Court Decision Making

Meeting date: 19 April 2022

Maggie Chapman

That is super.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children鈥檚 Participation in Court Decision Making

Meeting date: 19 April 2022

Maggie Chapman

Thank you, that is really helpful. I want to pick up on the final point about access to justice not needing to be difficult but sometimes involving really easy and鈥攐nce we think about them鈥攐bvious adaptations and measures. What lessons should the sheriff court system be learning from the additional support needs tribunal system to enable and enhance access to justice in that safe, informed and consistent way that all three of you have spoken about?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children鈥檚 Participation in Court Decision Making

Meeting date: 19 April 2022

Maggie Chapman

I will follow up with a connected but separate question about advocacy services. The 2020 act makes provision for advocacy services to be provided as ministers consider necessary. I am interested in whether you believe that that provision should be enforced and whether there need to be restrictions or stipulations around it. How do we balance the right of the child to be heard with their right to be supported and have their views heard through an advocate? Is the advocacy there to support them to have their views heard?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children鈥檚 Participation in Court Decision Making

Meeting date: 19 April 2022

Maggie Chapman

Good morning and thank you for joining us today and for your opening remarks. You have already given us a lot of information and a lot to think about.

I will put this question to all three of you, if that is okay. Following on from the questions about advocacy services that I asked the first panel, can you tell us a little bit more about the role that the children鈥檚 advocate performs in the current hearings system and tribunals? What can we learn from that鈥攚hat are the pros and cons of having a system that has a significant role for children鈥檚 advocates?

Jordan Croan spoke about the distinction between advocacy and independent advocacy. How do we draw that out in the children鈥檚 advocate issue?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children鈥檚 Participation in Court Decision Making

Meeting date: 19 April 2022

Maggie Chapman

Lesley-Anne, what are your views on the specialised hearings suites and associated possibilities?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children鈥檚 Participation in Court Decision Making

Meeting date: 19 April 2022

Maggie Chapman

It was about that element of independence, but I think that Jordan Croan covered it.

May Dunsmuir, I want to come to you and talk about your experience. I have a question about access to justice, which you ended on, and I will come to that later. However, on advocacy in additional support needs settings, how is that distinct or different? What benefits do you see it having in such settings?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children鈥檚 Participation in Court Decision Making

Meeting date: 19 April 2022

Maggie Chapman

I want to pick up on something that you said about how the child does not always get time with the child welfare reporter. Should we be thinking about how we ensure that the child gets that time, or is it not always appropriate for that to happen?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children鈥檚 Participation in Court Decision Making

Meeting date: 19 April 2022

Maggie Chapman

Do you see advocacy as a potential way of dealing with some of the challenges that we have discussed at previous meetings, such as the tension between the child鈥檚 welfare and their right to be heard and to participate?