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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 August 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Access to Justice

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Maggie Chapman

Another striking idea to come from the Evans review was the need to shift to a more citizen-centred system. What would we need to do with our funding models and the funding landscape to achieve that approach?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Access to Justice

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Maggie Chapman

That goes back to Fiona McPhail鈥檚 question鈥攚hat if you had the right to legal representation if you were about to lose your house? Is that the kind of thing that we could draw into that model of understanding?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Access to Justice

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thank you, Jen; that is helpful. Fiona, I have referenced you a few times. Do you want to come in? I will then have one final question.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Access to Justice

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Maggie Chapman

That would be better for everybody.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Access to Justice

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thanks for indulging me, Joe.

Colin Lancaster, I remember you saying in your opening remarks that legal aid should be there to solve problems and to support people to solve problems, rather than becoming a specialist area in itself. Can you elaborate on that? It is quite an interesting point, given the conversation that we have just had around the specialisms that are required for dealing with certain legal aid cases. I am curious to hear your views.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Access to Justice

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Maggie Chapman

That was interesting, and in some ways, it ties in with Fiona McPhail鈥檚 previous point about looking at rights in the round and ensuring that we are linking into the issue of what all citizens should be able to expect of services, whether they be legal or other public services.

I could go on, but I probably should not. Thank you, convener.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Maggie Chapman

Good morning to you all. Thank you for joining us and for what you have said so far, which has been really interesting. I want to tease out a couple of things that have come up already and take them off in slightly different directions. I am struck by the tension or disconnect that we have heard about between the different visions and definitions in industry and the community and the different parts of Grangemouth that we are talking about.

Malcolm, from the perspective of the growth deal or the GFIB鈥攖he professionalised structures and institutions of just transition strategy and delivery鈥攊s there perhaps too much focus on the process of transition compared with what we are talking about, which is a transition to justice? Does thinking about it in a different way allow us to talk about some of the things that Adam Gillies has raised鈥攖he gaps, failures and negative impacts that the community has felt?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Maggie Chapman

This question might relate to what you said about creating a vision. In answer to the question about the definition of a just transition, you said that there needs to be good discussion and engagement with the community and that it is then your job to articulate what a just transition means back to the community. It struck me that that is the wrong way round. If there is genuine engagement, the community will know what it means and you will not need to articulate it back. Are we co-producing the definition of a just transition and the vision for Grangemouth? Do we need to refocus our thinking? It is not about doing something to communities; it is about facilitating communities to create their own vision that is then implemented.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Maggie Chapman

Colin Smyth picked up a point about trust and Diarmaid Lawlor has just talked about respecting the people of Grangemouth by finding out what has already gone before. Adam Gillies, you represent the community council and the wider community. Has the trust broken down between you, the corporations whose operations have had the negative impacts that you described and public agencies that have not listened and have watered down the plans? If there is a breakdown of that trust, can and should the community trust corporations and public bodies to get it right? What is fundamental to rebuilding and sustaining that trust for the next period of time, whether that is months, years or decades?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Maggie Chapman

It matters.