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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Can you give us any details of when that review of community right to buy will be coming forward?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Douglas Lumsden

I thank Tim Eagle for taking the intervention. I will be quick. Does he not feel that part of the problem is that the scope of the bill has increased? You spoke about large estates having land management plans and said that you work well with them, but we have increased the scope of the bill. As I said to the cabinet secretary, we have tripled the number of farms that would be included in the requirements from 285 agricultural holdings up to 874. We have included many more people than where we started, which is part of the problem with the bill and the process that we have followed to get here.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Douglas Lumsden

I cannot find amendment 181 in my documentation, so I am a bit confused. I cannot see it in the group of amendments on my sheet, but maybe new amendments have been lodged.

I want to pick up on a couple of things. In speaking about the impact that the commissioner will have on the Scottish Land Commission, Tim Eagle made reference to the commission having to cut the advice that it delivers. It would be interesting to hear from the cabinet secretary whether she feels that the commissioner will have an impact on that. If the commission will have to cut stuff that it is already doing, that begs the question why it is doing that stuff now if it is not needed. That seems a bit strange.

Amendment 464, which was spoken to by Mark Ruskell, is something that we can support. Natural capital markets is an emerging issue and it needs somebody to keep a close eye on it.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Douglas Lumsden

My intervention is about amendment 347 and the compulsory purchase orders. I am trying to understand the situation. A bank may have lent money and have a standard security for the land. How would compulsory purchase orders work if a bank or another third party was involved?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Douglas Lumsden

I heard that word, so I thought that I would jump in quickly.

I understand that the intention behind the amendments is to increase the fines. I have listened carefully to what Bob Doris said about the fact that the proposal is not about going straight to a 拢40,000 fine but is about working with landowners to make sure that they comply with what they are meant to do. Does he agree that there should be guidance on the fines, so that everyone is clear that multiple breaches will result in them going up, and what the fines could be for repeated non-compliance with the land management plan?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Douglas Lumsden

How would the requirement to include in the land management plan information about a potential sale work? I would think that everything is potentially for sale if there is a proper price. Do you mean that, if negotiations on a potential sale are taking place, that information must be included? What would constitute a potential sale?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Douglas Lumsden

I was voting against, convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Douglas Lumsden

It is the number of agricultural holdings that will be affected that concerns me. Although not all agricultural holdings will be in scope, the number that will be affected has tripled from 285 to 874. The issue is not just the pressure that that will put on our farming communities, but the pressure that it will put on the land and communities commissioner, who will have to review all the land management plans. Do you think that they will have the capacity to look at all the plans, now that the threshold has been lowered, given the number of plans that will come forward?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Douglas Lumsden

I will briefly pick up on a point that Tim Eagle made. When we think about landowners, we might think of huge estates, but with the bill we are seeing more and more agricultural holdings being brought in that will have to produce a land management plan. If things had stayed as initially intended, only 285 agricultural holdings would have had to produce a land management plan. However, with the amendments that have been made, that will increase to 874 agricultural holdings across Scotland. Given what is happening in the farming industry just now, I think that that goes a bit too far and will have a huge impact on many of our farmers. I completely support what Tim Eagle has been saying and doing. The changes that we have made to the bill have gone much further than was intended, which I think is a negative.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Douglas Lumsden

No.