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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

Douglas Lumsden

That is good to hear.

My final question is on preventative spend. There are difficulties in the allocations between local government and health, for example. The local government review was meant to tackle some of those issues. Is that still the case? Will we see it this year?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Some 拢120 million of the funding must not have been factored in, because you have now used that for local government.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

Douglas Lumsden

If you have already used some of that money for business support, does that not leave a hole in the 拢620 million or, as you mentioned in relation to ScotWind, is there perhaps more than you anticipated, which has filled the potential gap?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

Douglas Lumsden

I have another question about business support. A pot of cash has been allocated, and we have seen the breakdown鈥攑erhaps Daniel Johnson has not, but the rest of us have. I guess that it is difficult鈥攎oney is allocated and there is a process for people to bid for it. If there are underspends in those budget lines, will the money be clawed back by the Government or will it be reinvested into more business support schemes? We saw some of that last year鈥攆or example, there was a discretionary scheme to which local government had access. Will that happen or will the money come back to the central pot?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

Douglas Lumsden

So that will come this year. Thank you, cabinet secretary.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

Douglas Lumsden

That is not part of the 拢620 million for next year鈥檚 budget.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Okay. That might tie into my next question, which is about the 拢620 million in additional resources. You mentioned earlier that you could unpack that for us if we wanted. Will you give us a bit more detail on the breakdown of that amount?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Cabinet secretary, you will not be surprised to hear that I want to follow on from Ross Greer鈥檚 point about the extra 拢120 million for local government. Obviously, that comes from the 拢440 million, some of which the UK Government is not going to claw back. Ross Greer asked why, if it is not being clawed back, it will not be in the base budget for following years.

Why is the 拢120 million for local government not being baselined? I think that you said that things such as the national insurance increase will be there year on year, so why is the 拢120 million not in the base budget?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

Douglas Lumsden

I thought that the 拢440 million was a potential clawback, so it would be just for one year. Is that not correct?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 27 January 2022

Douglas Lumsden

You are right. That occurred to me when I put in the application. I am happy to report that I have recruited another member to the proposed CPG. Jackie Dunbar has agreed to join us鈥擨 managed to rope her in. I am aware of the issue that you raise.

On the issue of wider involvement, in our initial meeting prior to the formalisation of the group, there were suggestions about whether we could try to get women鈥檚 rugby clubs involved. That issue will be addressed.