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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 26 December 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Does anybody else want to comment?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Yes, a little bit.

I will also go back to the point that Kevin Stewart made about the trust that people have in the whole process. We spoke about the potential benefits of moving to net zero, but do people understand the potential costs when it comes to insulating their home or changing their heating or vehicle? Are people aware, and do they accept, that that will have to come at a cost? Is there enough detail in the carbon budgets on the costs going forward?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Will the energy strategy be introduced at the same time as the plan?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Would that not mean more subsidies and higher bills?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Douglas Lumsden

I am only trying to understand what role the Scottish Government has in driving down electricity prices.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Mine was covered by Kevin Stewart.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Douglas Lumsden

I would not say that not knowing the cost is a flimsy excuse. Surely we should have that information. Even Mark Ruskell, who is on the other side of the argument to me, has said that, if we had the information, we could go even further, but without it, we cannot.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Gabi, I come to you, as I noticed that your hand was up.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Fabrice, do you want to come in? All the costly mitigations that we are looking at will probably have to be done anyway, regardless of where we are.

09:45  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Douglas Lumsden

When it comes to carbon budgets, is there a danger that we start offshoring more of our emissions instead? We seem to have a lot more electric buses in this country now. Most of them come from China, and we do not really know how they are produced or what the cost is to the environment. Is the danger with carbon budgets that, in trying to reduce our internal emissions as much as possible, we actually make things worse? Is that unfair? Does anyone want to come in?