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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 August 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I have a question about the recording of ministerial decisions. This is perhaps a question for you, Alex, given your experience. Is there a robust process or system in place so that when ministers approve something, a record of that decision is kept and could perhaps be looked at later to check who approved a certain thing?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Douglas Lumsden

To give the Government credit, it might say that it is working with organisations such as Skills Development Scotland, which should be doing that. Would you agree with that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I am trying to think how we would fit that into a report. Paul Sheerin, did you want to come in?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Douglas Lumsden

If we had the leader of Scotland plc in today, what advice would you give him? He would probably say that he would have to defund something else.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Is the issue a lack of people or of skills?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Douglas Lumsden

That is something that we have experienced in the Scottish Parliament in relation to ferries, as you might have seen. A decision was made about what was 拢90 million of spend at the time, although it is up to about 拢250 million now, and emails were frantically being searched for to find out exactly who gave the approval. I think it is wrong that we are trying to hunt about in email archives to find out who made a decision. Surely, there must be a better way of recording that. Perhaps there is, but it has just not been followed. I am trying to work out which it is.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Douglas Lumsden

You mentioned that there is an issue with skills. I want to work out what is going wrong. What can the Government learn from the situation, and what can it put in place to make things better? My question relates not so much to the skills agenda; it is more to do with the decisions that Government can make to improve the situation.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Douglas Lumsden

It was about the problem of due process.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Your submission contains some good examples in that respect鈥攜ou have mentioned the Forth crossing, and another example is Social Security Scotland鈥攂ut what has been on my mind recently is the proposal for the national care service, in which we are being asked to approve the allocation of quite a lot of money without there seeming to be a business case. Have you in Audit Scotland seen a business case for the national care service, or is that something that has been lacking?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Douglas Lumsden

You talk in your submission about evaluation being carried out post hoc鈥擨 think that that was the term that was used.