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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 24 August 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Okay. When the First Minister said that he was happy to check that he could legally reveal findings of a previous investigation, was he referring to only one of those investigations or all three? Whom did he ask?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Do you think that there is a danger of some of those decisions being taken behind closed doors and of things being done in different ways?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Thank you. Sophie Howe and Steve Martin, do you have a view on transparency in decisions that were taken?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Professor Martin, do you have anything to add?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

COSLA raised serious concerns about what the bill means financially for our local authorities. It would be good for local authorities to have some assurance that they will not be impacted. Do you think that that assurance will come out as we go through the process and that they will not be impacted financially by the bill?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Local government has highlighted that it is concerned that it will lose out financially in that area due to the bill.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

So that will be part of the updated financial memorandum.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I will build on the point that Michelle Thomson was making by asking a question about transparency. Professor Flinders, in your submission, you talk about two different aspects of transparency:

“transparency of the decision-making process”

and

“transparency around the reason for why a final decision was taken”,

which I think is what you were just talking about.

In previous evidence sessions, we have heard that, in New Zealand, minutes of Cabinet meetings are published a few weeks after the meeting has taken place. From your point of view, would that be a good thing or would it—the expression “government by WhatsApp” has been used in previous meetings—drive a lot of the decisions away from Cabinet meetings if the process were almost too transparent?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Social Work Scotland also notes a lack of available secure accommodation. Who would be responsible for providing such accommodation? Do you have, or will there be, capital budget in the financial memorandum to try to plug that gap?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

The figure seems to be based on the £6,500 weekly cost for secure accommodation. So, my final question is about whether the cost for a 12-year-old in secure accommodation is the same as the cost of a 17-year-old. Would we expect to see differences between those two costs?