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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 December 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Michael Marra

As part of those longer-term plans, we have been told in the Scottish Government’s fiscal sustainability delivery plan that there will be a 0.5 per cent annual reduction in the public sector workforce. Is that figure credible?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Michael Marra

The current Government cannot bind the next one in relation to spending priorities. However, at the start of this spending review cycle—which we are already a fair way into, because it has been pushed back to be published in January—would we not miss the opportunity to set an overall trajectory if the Government did not do that now?

You are talking about prioritisation within different areas, but the Scottish Fiscal Commission has set out the challenge around where we need to reach by 2029-30. Surely, therefore, it has to address that issue in terms of the longer-term trajectory. It cannot simply kick it a further year down the road and say, “We’ll wait and see what the next Government is and it’ll come up with some answers; that might be us or it might be somebody else.”

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Michael Marra

Can we go back to the Scottish spending review, please, David? What does the Scottish Government need to achieve when it publishes its spending review and how do you think it should go about achieving it?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Michael Marra

So, if we are brought budget figures that say that the Scottish Government will achieve a ÂŁ200 million reduction in the public sector workforce in the following year, is that a credible position?

I will reference figures that have been published today. The headcount in public corporations is up by 5.8 per cent—500 people. In “Other Public Bodies”, it is up by 0.7 per cent. The devolved civil service headcount is up by 1.5 per cent. That trajectory is going in completely the opposite direction, despite the minister telling us that the Government is getting things under control and that it is heading in the other direction. That is completely untrue.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Michael Marra

My last point is about the application of AI. You mentioned how that could, potentially, lead to productivity gains. Two weeks ago, we had evidence from representatives of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency, who talked about AI as a solution to some of their problems. However, they have a huge batch of records that are not digitised. Is a big leap in capital investment in public services not required to get us into a position in which AI could be applied, rather than its being seen as an off-the-shelf solution that could result in better outcomes and better productivity?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of NHS Tayside”

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Michael Marra

Moving on to single site provision, I would note, as an example, the state of Strathmartine hospital, which the Mental Welfare Commission for Scotland reported on in 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2023 and 2024. The 2024 report on the hospital, which set out what I have described as “Dickensian conditions”, was published only half an hour before I had a meeting with the chair and the chief executive of the Mental Welfare Commission. It was months late; it would not have been published, had I not asked for a meeting. You talk about oversight and accountability—these are the reports that the leadership should have been responding to, but were not.

You have said that changes have been made to the physical environment. I agree with that—I have been to the site, and I have seen those changes—but what really concerns me is your comment that there is no clear plan and no costings for the move to single site provision. Do you think that that information has to be provided and put into the public domain by the board, for the sake of accountability?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of NHS Tayside”

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Michael Marra

Is your understanding of that live—in other words, as of today? I have to say that I have a very different understanding of the completion of the one-to-ones. Staff were told that the process was to be completed by August, but then at the end of June—four weeks before the process was meant to be completed—they were told that it would not be happening. I had been telling the health board for many months that there was no chance of it happening in August—that was absolutely clear.

There has been no publication of the capital costs or the investment in Murray royal hospital that is required; nothing about the overtime required to transfer staff from one place to another; nothing about meeting with bank staff; and nothing about the shortfall. Have you seen plans that actually contain that detail? Has the board examined the cost of making this move versus the need to deliver for patients?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of NHS Tayside”

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Michael Marra

When was that?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of NHS Tayside”

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Michael Marra

There have been such changes almost every year.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of NHS Tayside”

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Michael Marra

Was it the new chief executive, or was it one of the previous two in the past three years, who downgraded the scope of the programme? When did the downgrading happen?