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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 June 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Michael Marra

That is a useful recounting, but we regularly hear from Government ministers that lessons will be learned. For example, on the ferries scandal, Kate Forbes said on 29 March 2022:

鈥淲e recognise where things have gone wrong and we are learning lessons for the future.鈥濃擺Official Report, 29 March 2022; c 4.]

The First Minister at the time said:

鈥淟essons have been, are being, and will be learned.鈥濃擺Official Report, 31 March 2022; c 11.]

On the Audit Scotland report about the 拢5 billion lack of transparency in the Covid business arrangements, Kate Forbes said that any lessons that were highlighted by the report would be learned.

This is about decision making. We are told that lessons are being learned, but I am keen to understand what those lessons are.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Michael Marra

Other examples include the ferries scandal, which I have mentioned and which has involved huge public expenditure, and the shambolic approach to the census. On 1 June 2022, Nicola Sturgeon said:

鈥淥f course we will review the experience and ensure that any lessons that require to be learned are learned.鈥濃擺Official Report, 1 June 2022; c 25.]

What lessons have we learned about how those pretty poor decisions by the Government were made?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Michael Marra

So, for instance, will we not do what we did with the census again? Will we carry out the census at the same time as the rest of the United Kingdom? Has that lesson been learned?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Michael Marra

Permanent secretary?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Michael Marra

Was it before your time?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Michael Marra

I reiterate my plea for brevity.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Michael Marra

Is there a specific point that you want to establish, Douglas?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Michael Marra

The next item on our agenda is an evidence session with John-Paul Marks, the permanent secretary to the Scottish Government, on issues relating to public administration in Government. Mr Marks is joined by Lesley Fraser; director general corporate, Louise Macdonald; director general communities and Jackie McAllister the chief financial officer, all from the Scottish Government. I welcome you all to the meeting. Thank you for taking the time to come and see us.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Michael Marra

Okay, thank you. You mentioned in your opening statement the harassment reviews, which this committee has previously taken an interest in. Can we have an update on changes that have been made?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Michael Marra

Mr Lumsden is being quite specific. He is asking about what happened at the time and whether there is a reason for that. He is not asking about what will happen in the future.