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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 December 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 17 September 2024

Michael Marra

I am interested in the stability issue in relation to longer-term investment, where we are getting the money from and how it might be spent. Public Health Scotland says in its submission that, in the current climate, there is

“a tendency towards more reactive, short-term responses.”

We are in the third year of emergency in-year budget cuts from the finance secretary and of very short-term decisions being taken within the financial year. Can any of our witnesses talk about the challenges that that creates in the organisations that they represent, whether in the health service or for users of services more generally?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 17 September 2024

Michael Marra

Multiyear settlements would be good, but multimonth settlements would be good, too. At the moment, it seems that projects are being thrown into turmoil in-year because, across the board, budgets are being cut in-year rather than from year to year. However, I am emphasising a slightly different point. I absolutely agree that longer-term, multiyear settlements can help to mitigate some of that but, at the moment, the management of public finances in Scotland is resulting in in-year chaos.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Michael Marra

Professor Heald, in the evidence that you have given today and in your submission, you have mentioned super-parity policies—which I will call “more generous policies”, in layman’s terms—and you raised that issue previously. On 8 March 2022, you said:

“This is the time when Scotland should take stock of where it is. One thing that I would like to see in the spending review is serious data on what the future spend on the above-parity programmes will be in the next five or 10 years.”—[Official Report, Finance and Public Administration Committee, 8 March 2022; c 5.]

However, you are here again, more than two years later, making the point about the gap around our more generous programmes and our lack of understanding of it. Is sufficient planning on understanding that gap and being able to express the difference so that we can plan for the future, even in the medium term, taking place?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Michael Marra

With regard to place-based opportunities and economic development in the Highlands, for instance, are there plans or strategies that will be able to deliver those kinds of jobs?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Michael Marra

Would you recognise that having three years of emergency budget reviews, with very significant in-year changes, is very inefficient and certainly does not allow departments or public services to deliver against strategic outcomes? Other witnesses are shaking their heads.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Michael Marra

I know that some recent announcements about the next research excellence framework cycle have filled the hearts of academics across Scotland with gladness. Can you describe the relationship between a 20 per cent real-terms reduction in the research excellence grant and the slower improvement in Scotland in terms of REF outcomes in the most recent cycle, in comparison with the rest of the UK?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Michael Marra

Subsequent to our visit to the University of Dundee last week, there was an announcement about the major grant of £30 million from the UK Government for the protein phosphorylation and ubiquitylation unit—I will not say that again—at the university. We were made very welcome at the university.

Liz Smith has touched on issues around international talent, and we have heard your comments about recruitment. I was particularly concerned to ask about the management at the university and about where opportunities might arise for longer-term Dundonians—not new Dundonians, necessarily—to be involved in work and growth opportunities. The whole witness panel is concerned about the opportunities that arise from that kind of funding.

The university management pointed out a few issues with the withdrawal of upskilling funding and the mainstreaming of graduate apprenticeship funding into the core grant—essentially, the cut of that grant. Do you feel that opportunities for the development of talent in Scotland and for Scots to get employment through those major grants have been maintained? What can we do to improve those opportunities?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Michael Marra

In a conversation that I had with a vice-chancellor recently, they said to me that they believe that 14 of the 19 institutions that you represent are in significant financial strife. Do you recognise that figure?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Michael Marra

What will the repercussions of that be?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Michael Marra

All the committee’s evidence sessions in this inquiry are about taking a strategic approach to the use of public finances in Scotland. Overall, given the short-term and medium-term consequences that you describe—and, to be frank, the long-term trajectory—do you think that a strategic approach is being taken to the financing of our tertiary education in Scotland?