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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 June 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Michael Marra

So, before we received this, it will have been signed off by the Deputy First Minister, who is the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Michael Marra

Cabinet secretary, you have long experience—17 years or so—of being in the Government. Has the process changed during that time?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Michael Marra

No, of course not, but you are proposing that a commissioner model would improve outcomes, and I am saying that I do not see the evidence that that has been the case with other commissioners. Given that you are advocating that model, I assume that you have seen the basis on which outcomes have improved for a set of people somewhere.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Michael Marra

I understand the technical need for people such as freedom of information commissioners and standards commissioners to oversee Governments and politicians. It is absolutely right and necessary that those people keep an eye on politicians. However, if this is about influence, will there be a conflict in the power structure if we ask politicians to do something and we have lobbyists being held to account on their lobbying? Will that improve outcomes?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Michael Marra

My understanding is that there was a significant revision to the process around the time of the Creative Scotland Bill and that additional gateways were introduced. I am keen to understand whether the process has changed since then. It would be useful if that information could be provided.

There is a recurring theme for the committee. We have at least four financial memorandums in front of us that are deeply inadequate and that do not seem to have been properly signed off or scrutinised by Government. As part of our stewardship of the public finances, the committee is keen to understand why that continually happens. Do you have any observations about that recurring theme?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Michael Marra

At what level in the civil service would the financial memorandum be signed off?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Michael Marra

That would be both in the policy department—

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Michael Marra

How do other colleagues feel about whether your role is democratic or supports democracy in Scotland?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Michael Marra

I can ask them that. I am inviting lots of comments on other colleagues.

Dr Plastow, you said in your submission:

“In my view there are also opportunities for Parliament to strengthen post-implementation review arrangements.”

You have talked about that already in terms of accountability. How do you judge your outcomes for the public, whether you have achieved your mandate and you are producing value for the public?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Michael Marra

There is a lot in there about a rights discourse, but child poverty has increased significantly over those 21 years, we have a decline in educational outcomes for young people and we have a mental health crisis among children and adolescents. Is there a risk here that we are more concerned with issues of rights rather than outcomes and what happens to young people as a result?