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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 25 December 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Michael Marra

I have a constituent who retired in 2015 and was told in September 2021 that they would have their full resolution by October 2022, but they are now being told by your evidence today that it will be 2026. They will have been retired for over 11 years by the point at which there is any remedy to their pension.

This is not just about a lack of certainty. We are talking about a huge chunk of people’s lives in which their lives are diminished, where they are unable to spend the money that they have rightly earned. They are unable to spend it on their children or their grandchildren or to make choices that they wanted to make. Is the word “sorry” in there?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Michael Marra

You will also recognise that there will be people who have died in that period, who had no access.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Michael Marra

Okay.

On general practice, I have also been contacted by constituents regarding the lack of estimates being available to them prior to retirement. In other parts of the UK—you have been keen to lean on them—some of those estimates are available up to 18 months before retirement, but the policy at the SPPA seems to be that people are not allowed an estimate until six months before retirement. Is that the case?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Michael Marra

Okay. When do you think that that capacity might be realised within those five years?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Michael Marra

In July, you said that the deadline of 31 October remained but that full delivery was expected by 31 December. I do not really know what that means, if I am honest. It does not really make much sense. Either the deadline is kept or it is not.

You have talked about complexity, and a statement that was issued on the Scottish Government website says:

“SPPA has exercised this discretion due to the scale and complexity”.

We have heard quite a bit about that this morning. However, the statement says that that was

“not an indication of lack of progress, but rather a reflection of our commitment to completing the remaining work responsibly and transparently.”

It is a reflection of lack of progress, is it not? It happened because you are not getting the work completed.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Michael Marra

When will we see a return to a more acceptable timeframe for people to get some kind of estimate of what the benefits from their pension will be?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Michael Marra

A constituent of mine told me that they recently made the same inquiry having spent 10 years teaching in England, and they received—18 months out from retirement—an estimate within 45 minutes. You have been keen to lean on a comparison with the rest of the UK, but we are not seeing that lack of performance in other parts of the UK. Is there a justification for that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Michael Marra

You said previously that you want to see that timeframe increase as the burden of the McCloud remedy reduces. That seemed to be what you were indicating.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Michael Marra

The six months might grow. Frances Graham identified the aspiration within five years at a strategic level. What do you think is acceptable? Where do you want us to get to within the next two years?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Michael Marra

John Sturrock KC told the committee that

“the conduct of public inquiries and the possibility that costs are out of control is another example of a more fundamental problem in Scotland—namely that our approach to decision making, complex issues, negotiation and addressing tough issues is suboptimal.”—[Official Report, Finance and Public Administration Committee, 17 June 2025; c 32.]

Would you care to reflect on that assessment of the Government’s approach?