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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Michael Marra
Was it the new chief executive, or was it one of the previous two in the past three years, who downgraded the scope of the programme? When did the downgrading happen?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Michael Marra
Moving on to single site provision, I would note, as an example, the state of Strathmartine hospital, which the Mental Welfare Commission for Scotland reported on in 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2023 and 2024. The 2024 report on the hospital, which set out what I have described as 鈥淒ickensian conditions鈥, was published only half an hour before I had a meeting with the chair and the chief executive of the Mental Welfare Commission. It was months late; it would not have been published, had I not asked for a meeting. You talk about oversight and accountability鈥攖hese are the reports that the leadership should have been responding to, but were not.
You have said that changes have been made to the physical environment. I agree with that鈥擨 have been to the site, and I have seen those changes鈥攂ut what really concerns me is your comment that there is no clear plan and no costings for the move to single site provision. Do you think that that information has to be provided and put into the public domain by the board, for the sake of accountability?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Michael Marra
Is your understanding of that live鈥攊n other words, as of today? I have to say that I have a very different understanding of the completion of the one-to-ones. Staff were told that the process was to be completed by August, but then at the end of June鈥攆our weeks before the process was meant to be completed鈥攖hey were told that it would not be happening. I had been telling the health board for many months that there was no chance of it happening in August鈥攖hat was absolutely clear.
There has been no publication of the capital costs or the investment in Murray royal hospital that is required; nothing about the overtime required to transfer staff from one place to another; nothing about meeting with bank staff; and nothing about the shortfall. Have you seen plans that actually contain that detail? Has the board examined the cost of making this move versus the need to deliver for patients?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Michael Marra
When was that?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Michael Marra
So, one of the responses of the new leadership team, which you have said is bringing in this different expertise, was to downgrade the scope of the programme. Part of its response to the crisis was to say, 鈥淎ctually, we need to narrow the focus.鈥
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Michael Marra
But surely there has to be consistency. Rachel Browne, have you seen in your examination of the issue evidence that the board has asked for, and is seeing, reports setting out progress against the 51 recommendations, or is the reporting against a whole system change programme that might represent some of them but not others and which includes things of different scope? Have we lost focus on the outcomes of the Strang report over the past six years?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Michael Marra
They are not doing that.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Michael Marra
Okay鈥擨 appreciate that. I suppose, Auditor General, that I am just trying to get you to say on the record that this plan should be published with the costings and a timeline for the delivery of single-site provision so that the board can scrutinise it and the public can see it.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Michael Marra
Thank you for your tolerance.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Michael Marra
I will maybe come back to the spending side of it. You also mentioned that such decisions would be supported by
鈥渁 more detailed assessment of the potential impact and timescales鈥
on taxation. Could you tell us a little more about what you mean by that?