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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 2 November 2022

Michael Marra

If I can, convener—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 2 November 2022

Michael Marra

I would like the minister to reflect on what we are hearing from the sector more directly. He makes the argument that it is about overheads and that it is more expensive to educate a student at a university than it is to educate a student at a college. Does he recognise the feeling in the college sector that colleges are very much treated as the poor relations in the portfolio, not just in comparison to universities but also in comparison to schools? That is not just about the rate of money per pupil but is also reflected in the capital budget. I have had principals tell me that they are ashamed of the condition of their buildings, because there is no money to invest in them.

We can see the numbers, but do you understand that that is how the leaders and the teachers in colleges feel?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 2 November 2022

Michael Marra

I am sorry, minister, but you are telling us that your understanding is not being reflected in your decisions. You say that you have that sympathy, but you are the person in charge, who makes the decisions and sets the priorities. You have to be able to defend that differential.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny: Early Learning and Childcare

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Michael Marra

How many children does that raw figure of 20 per cent represent?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny: Early Learning and Childcare

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Michael Marra

You will understand that, as part of the process that we are undertaking here—scrutiny of the budget throughout the year—it would be very useful for us to have the figures that you indicated are not available to us today so that we can make representations to the Government, partially on your behalf with regard to sustainability. Therefore, I would appreciate it if you could provide that information to the committee, perhaps in writing, after the event. I understand that you might have to go through the democratic process in Fife Council, but it would be useful for us to have an indication of those figures.

I will move on to ask a fairly short question about deferrals. Will the various councils that are represented today give us an early indication of the impact of the expansion of eligibility for funded early learning and childcare for children whose entry to primary school has been deferred? What is the impact of that on the budgets and resources that are available? Stewart, are you able to tell us about the early indications?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny: Early Learning and Childcare

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Michael Marra

The questions on the PVI sector reflect how important it is strategically, and it is good to hear colleagues recognise that. The sector represents half of all nursery provision across Scotland, which is a huge part of the provision for families. We talked about setting a sustainable rate. The real living wage has recently increased by 10 per cent. Will the councils be uplifting by 10 per cent the rate that they pay their PVI providers? That question is for Carrie Lindsay first.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny: Early Learning and Childcare

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Michael Marra

What was the rate of uplift last year?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny: Early Learning and Childcare

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Michael Marra

While I ask my other questions, I will try to work out the percentage increase there. If you have that number to hand, or if anybody else does, that would be useful to me.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny: Early Learning and Childcare

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Michael Marra

Okay. I ask the same question of Argyll and Bute Council. What might the uplift look like this year?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny: Early Learning and Childcare

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Michael Marra

That is really useful. Thank you.

There has been comment already, in evidence given on the settlement for local government, about how challenging it is going to be to meet the overall strategic objectives. Do you think that the policy objectives that have been set out can be met under the current funding settlement?