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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Ministerial Portfolio: Equalities and Older People

Meeting date: 29 March 2022

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Good morning, minister. My question is a supplementary to Fulton MacGregor鈥檚 question. We have heard from witnesses that, during the pandemic, black and ethnic minority women felt misunderstood by mainstream services due to those services not understanding their culture, so they were left disinclined to use those services after suffering domestic abuse. There was increasing reliance on the third sector as a result. What has been done to tackle that flaw in the system and to achieve the capabilities and capacities that are set out in the race equality framework?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Ministerial Portfolio: Equalities and Older People

Meeting date: 29 March 2022

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

I thank the minister for those comments, which sound very promising. The women raised the issue that, because they had no representation on the boards, they could not understand the culture. It is therefore good to hear that you have Mariam on the joint strategic board.

With regard to FGM, which you have mentioned, the fact is that most of the Female Genital Mutilation (Protection and Guidance) (Scotland) Act 2020 is not yet in force. In 2019, a Scottish Government publication revealed that there was no available data on the occurrence of FGM in Scotland. Has there been more of a focus on collecting that data to accurately identify communities and spaces where this horrific practice might be taking place?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Ministerial Portfolio: Equalities and Older People

Meeting date: 29 March 2022

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Thank you, minister.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gypsy Travellers in Scotland

Meeting date: 22 March 2022

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Thank you all for your opening statements and your responses to all the questions. They truly provide a picture of all the issues that people have been facing. I, too, thank you for all the work that you have been doing, both through Covid and before it.

We know that access to education is an issue that has affected the Gypsy Traveller community, and we have heard today that lack of devices or internet access are likely to have exacerbated the digital divide, resulting in digital inequality. What should be done to close the gap? Should the Scottish Government initiate a catch-up programme targeted at the Gypsy Traveller community?

Convener, if it is okay, I want to ask a quick question afterwards on the racial side of this.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gypsy Travellers in Scotland

Meeting date: 22 March 2022

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Dr Tammi, do you want to say anything? I know that Dr Finn mentioned racism as an issue, too.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gypsy Travellers in Scotland

Meeting date: 22 March 2022

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gypsy Travellers in Scotland

Meeting date: 22 March 2022

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Dr Tammi, Maureen Finn has just said that the issue is not access but the one-to-one learning that people need. Should a catch-up programme for the Gypsy Traveller community be targeted more at that point rather than at overall access?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gypsy Travellers in Scotland

Meeting date: 22 March 2022

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Leslie Drury wants to come in.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gypsy Travellers in Scotland

Meeting date: 22 March 2022

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Dr Finn, do you have something to say about that? I believe that you highlighted the issue.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gypsy Travellers in Scotland

Meeting date: 22 March 2022

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

We have heard a lot today about racial discrimination and racism, which have no place in society, never mind the Gypsy Traveller community. Leslie Drury, does more need to be done to ensure that education and awareness raising happen at grass-roots level, perhaps with students and children in schools, so that they go home and talk about such matters? Would that allow us to root out any sort of racism against or racial tension with the Gypsy Traveller community?