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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 August 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

To go back to trafficking, we have heard evidence that women鈥攁nd certain individuals鈥攎ay not always go to the police but will sometimes trust third sector organisations and go there first. The police also identified that. That may be because, in the countries where those women come from, the police have a different system. I will not say what kind of system, but it is perhaps not trustworthy for those women, so, when they come here, they are scared to go to the police. Do you find that, sometimes, those women come to Mears for help before going to the police?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Okay. On the issue of trafficking, we have heard from witnesses over the weeks that, typically, hotels are targeted by traffickers in order to exploit vulnerable individuals in that accommodation. It was great to hear from TARA and Police Scotland about the work that is being undertaken to safeguard asylum seekers and refugees. How has your working relationship with TARA and Migrant Help changed your operation to help protect individuals who might be vulnerable to traffickers?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Could Mears make any improvements to ensure that vulnerable people are protected from traffickers?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Good morning, panel. Thank you so much for your opening statements.

Last week, when I asked about trafficking and exploitation, I was told that, too often, victims do not want to deal with the police, so they are supported, in the first instance, by the third sector, perhaps through a joined-up approach with Police Scotland. What sort of partnership working do you undertake with the third sector in this area? Do you foresee any changes or improvements being made? I will start with Elaine Tomlinson, because she mentioned trust. As a woman from a Black, Asian and minority ethnic background, I understand that, in other countries鈥擨 am thinking of my mother鈥攖here is less trust in the police, so when she mentioned that, it resonated with me. Is there a language barrier as well?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Thank you for that information.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Can the Scottish Government make any change or improvement to help a little bit more? Also, has there been a change since you started providing that support, given that you have reached out with 400 third-party places? Do you think that change is happening? What improvements can be made?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Thank you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Having third-party reporting centres is a great initiative. There are 400 places, and people want to add to that. I deal with domestic abuse and things like that, so I know that it is important that those affected can get support by walking into a coffee place, for instance.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

I thank the witnesses for their opening statements.

In previous sessions, witnesses referred to the differences between the resettlement of Ukrainian refugees and that of other refugees and asylum seekers. They often painted a picture that Ukrainian refugees are treated more favourably. However, at the weekend, it was revealed that more than 7,500 Ukrainian refugees are still in temporary accommodation and that some have been moved around the country. Can you talk a little about that? Did the Scottish Government overestimate its ability to cope with the number of Ukrainian refugees? What impact has the drastic housing shortage had on the ability to provide more stable accommodation in a community-based setting?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Good morning, panel, and thank you so much for your opening statements.

Much of last week鈥檚 discussion was on illegal trafficking and exploitation, which have been mentioned today, too. My question is in two parts. First, what role does Police Scotland play alongside the third sector? Secondly, since Police Scotland began 10 years ago, 140 police stations and a lot of community policing have been cut. What impact has that had on reducing community tensions as well as rooting out illegal trafficking and slavery?