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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

I would like to ask one more question. You mentioned the rights of women, the rights of people with a disability and the rights of people from black, Asian and minority ethnic communities. The committee has heard evidence that it is sometimes challenging to reach out to and engage with certain communities, especially ethnic minority communities. Have you had any problems in that regard? You said that you did some work in that area. What gaps did you notice? What more can we鈥攐r you鈥攄o to reach out to those communities?

As someone who comes from a BAME background, I know that there are certain things that I would find it difficult to do鈥攚hether in a job or anything else鈥攏ot only as a woman, but as a member of an ethnic minority living in a different culture. There are some things that you would probably take for granted that you do every day, but which I would find difficult because of the cultural aspect surrounding that. Could you shed a bit of light on that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Good morning. Thank you for your opening statements and for all the information that you have provided so far.

I want to move on from my colleague Paul O鈥橩ane鈥檚 questions. The state of the nation report provides an assessment of how civil and political rights are met in Scotland. In fact, the commission found that human rights failings occur across Scotland, specifically in places of detention and across rural communities. Extensive barriers were also reported in justice, which you have mentioned鈥攜ou have talked about the monitoring. How has that report been received? What feeling do you get that the Scottish Government and public authorities are going to address those failings? You have mentioned the monitoring, but will they address those failings?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Thank you. I have a supplementary, and then I will ask one more question.

Even to this day, women are still at a disadvantage compared with men, and that is especially true of women in custody. Two years ago, a male double rapist was briefly put into a women鈥檚 prison simply because he had claimed that he was a woman. That put many vulnerable women at risk. Do you recognise the importance of single-sex spaces and services, especially when it comes to vulnerable women such as women in custody or in rape crisis centres?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Thank you. Angela O鈥橦agan, you said that you spoke to the First Minister. You may not want to divulge what was said, but were your recommendations and your considerations well received? As you say, it is good that there was a debate on the report, but was it received well?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Jan, do you have anything to add?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Post-legislative Scrutiny

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Minister, today is the last day of the 16 days of activism against gender-based violence. For many women, 16 days are a lifetime. Indeed, the latest Scottish Government statistics paint a very shocking picture, with almost 64,000 domestic abuse cases reported to Police Scotland, and a reoffending rate of 65 per cent, which is a 3 per cent increase.

Next month, we will be in 2025; the last domestic abuse act was passed in 2021, which is almost four years ago. I have spoken to many survivors and organisations who put in so much effort to ensure that that legislation was introduced and eventually passed, but they are still waiting. Can you update the committee on the Government鈥檚 target date for implementing part 1 of the 2021 act?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Post-legislative Scrutiny

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Minister, as I said, 64,000 cases were reported to Police Scotland鈥攖hat is a 3 per cent rise on the year before. The number of reoffenders has gone up as well. What can you say to the survivors and victims who are out there listening today? Are they part of the Scottish Government鈥檚 consciousness?

Your officials have just said that next year, you are going to look at next steps. Those survivors are looking for an implementation date鈥擨 emphasise that to you, minister. People are suffering out there, and domestic violence is an abhorrent and shocking crime. We need to ensure that people who are going through domestic abuse have confidence that the Scottish Government is implementing the acts that are passed.

When you say that next steps will happen next year, what does that mean? Does it mean another year, or two years, later? What are we looking at here?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Post-legislative Scrutiny

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

I want to put on record that, in my original question, after I described the consultation process as rushed, I said straight away that it takes the appropriate amount of time. I know that you made that point.

I agree that consultation is very important to allow people to have their say. Committees are also important, as we can scrutinise and take evidence. My question was not about there being an issue with consultation. I am saying that the process is resource intensive鈥攕ometimes organisations are one-man bands or have only five people. I was asking what you would say to organisations when there is not a result at the end of the process and they have done all that hard work.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Post-legislative Scrutiny

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

I wait to hear feedback next year on how the acts have been implemented.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Post-legislative Scrutiny

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

I just want to echo how important the implementation of the legislation is and that there are women and girls out there who are suffering. Minister, I am really hoping鈥攁nd will hold you to your word鈥攖hat the act will be implemented in 2026, as you mentioned, because people out there are suffering right now, especially women and girls.