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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 August 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Legal Aid

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Katy Clark

I ask Ian Moir to come in on that. What would make a difference? There could be an increase but it might not be sufficient for what you are arguing for. What does the Government need to do?

Criminal Justice Committee

Legal Aid

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Katy Clark

So you are saying that to maintain your business model and recruit lawyers you need to go back to 1999 levels in the immediate future. I am not talking about the long-term structure—I am talking about what needs to be done now to ensure that we do not have a crisis this winter.

Criminal Justice Committee

Legal Aid

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Katy Clark

Given the current crisis, are you expanding the Public Defence Solicitors Office? Are you recruiting? How does the pay compare with the pay for the types of solicitors in private practice to whom Ian Moir referred?

Criminal Justice Committee

Legal Aid

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Katy Clark

My question is to Julia McPartlin and Ian Moir. Exactly what level of increase are you suggesting there needs to be in legal aid fees? Are you suggesting that the restructuring of legal aid to encourage pleas at an early stage would be sufficient to enable better recruitment for criminal defence agents or are you suggesting a percentage increase across the board on criminal legal aid rates? What kind of percentage is necessary now to enable you to recruit into the sector?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims’ Rights and Victim Support

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Katy Clark

Yes. In the previous evidence session, we heard that there are resourcing issues with regard to evidence on commission hearings. I want to ask Mary Glasgow in particular and perhaps Kate Wallace about that. Are you experiencing that? Do you believe that there is more scope for using evidence on commission in relation to children?

Criminal Justice Committee

Domestic Abuse, Gendered Violence and Sexual Offences (Priorities in Session 6)

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Katy Clark

That is helpful. DCS Faulds, do you have any thoughts in relation to cases not being taken forward because of issues to do with the forum, as opposed to the evidence? Would changing the forum lead to more cases coming forward, for whatever reason?

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Criminal Justice Committee

Domestic Abuse, Gendered Violence and Sexual Offences (Priorities in Session 6)

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Katy Clark

You have a great deal of experience of dealing with rape victims at a very early stage. DCS Faulds, would more rape victims come forward if they felt that the process was going to work in a different way?

Criminal Justice Committee

Domestic Abuse, Gendered Violence and Sexual Offences (Priorities in Session 6)

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Katy Clark

Professor Burman and Professor Chalmers may have looked at that issue or have a view on it. They may well think that we are going down the right path, but it would be interesting to explore whether there are elements of other systems that we have not looked at but should look at if we want to improve conviction rates.

Criminal Justice Committee

Domestic Abuse, Gendered Violence and Sexual Offences (Priorities in Session 6)

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Katy Clark

I want to pick up on points that have already been made. Taking on board everything that has been said about the proposal potentially downgrading offences and the comments about it being considered as an inferior court, and on the presumption that it would be part of the High Court, I want to know whether, if the system was one of a jury-free specialist court with a single judge or single judge with wing members, that would have an impact on how cases were marked and on whether they would be taken to court in the first instance. That is probably a question for the police and prosecution service.

We have already heard that there are problems in resourcing the taking of evidence on commission. Is that an issue? If changes were made so that there was more availability to take evidence on commission and the system had a single judge or a single judge with wing members, and if we put aside corroboration and treat it as a completely separate—although obviously very important—issue, would more cases come to court and, therefore, could more rape and attempted rape convictions be secured? That question is for Moira Price from the prosecution service; if Detective Chief Superintendent Faulds wants to come in, that would also be helpful.

Criminal Justice Committee

Domestic Abuse, Gendered Violence and Sexual Offences (Priorities in Session 6)

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Katy Clark

Dr Marsha Scott, from your organisation’s experience, why do victims decide not to go down the path of taking issues to the police? You must have extensive experience of that.