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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 August 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Katy Clark

No. The composition of the council is a wide issue, but I fully understand the points that Linda is making.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Katy Clark

My question is for Linda Somerville and is about the composition of the council. The STUC submission suggests that 50 per cent of the body should be trade union representatives. I appreciate that different unions operate in different sectors and will have knowledge of different occupations, but I ask Linda to explain why 50 per cent is the right level and say a bit more about what the overall composition of the body should be. We understand that the United Kingdom body is dominated by people from scientific and academic backgrounds.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Katy Clark

My question picks up on some of the evidence that we have already heard. We know that the United Kingdom body is already considering many of the issues discussed. Covid has been mentioned by Norman Provan more than once, and long Covid has been discussed, too. There are obviously significant issues around cancer and other conditions that relate to firefighters, and the issue of women鈥檚 occupational health has been strongly emphasised in this evidence session.

It is a concern that, if the proposed council is a scientific body鈥攁 committee or body made up of academics鈥攊t would simply be duplicating work that is currently carried out by IIAC, without producing different outcomes. We are trying to understand what the added value of the new body might be if it is considering the same issues. Noting what you have said already, do you believe that there would be different outcomes if the composition of the body was different? Are you suggesting that the evidence that would be considered would not be purely scientific, and that there would be other evidence?

I invite Linda Somerville to respond first, as she is representing the STUC.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Katy Clark

No.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Katy Clark

I am asking how we can avoid duplication with the work that is going on at a UK level and how we ensure that there is added value. You have covered a lot of that already, but the committee is concerned, in particular, about how we avoid duplication.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Katy Clark

I will ask about how we apply knowledge and the test that SEIAC would apply. There has been mention of reasonable certainty and the double-risk test. How should the test that the council would apply be developed? Would the council itself do that? Does the Parliament need to set it in legislation? Considering other European models, how do you suggest that Scotland approaches developing that test? You might recommend a test or the process by which one might be developed.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Katy Clark

The bill suggests a council of 12 members. Is that the right size? Has anyone given that any thought? That might be something that the STUC has considered, given that it made a submission about the number of trade union representatives who should be involved.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Katy Clark

I will follow up on why a different composition might lead to different outcomes. Presumably, the science would be the same; the council would draw from the same scientific community. From what the witnesses have said, I get the impression that the questions that are put to the scientific community might be different and might be asked decades earlier, but that that might drive research. Is that a fair reflection, or are there additional factors that might mean that there would be a different outcome from the current position?

Criminal Justice Committee

Deaths in Prison Custody

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Katy Clark

It seems to me that there are two issues. The first is how we reduce the number of deaths in custody and the second is the systems that are in place when there is a death in custody. From my experience elsewhere, it seems that greater political oversight can have an impact on the number of deaths in custody. I have been quite surprised by the numbers. The scrutiny by ministers and the committee is really important in that area. I agree with the points in relation to the issues around what happens after a death.

The recommendations need to be implemented, but it is not necessarily the case that we need a completely different system. That would be quite a significant decision and one that we would need to scrutinise very carefully.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2023

Katy Clark

I just wanted to pick up on the issue of duplication. The bill that we, as a committee, are scrutinising seeks to set up a Scotland-wide body. We want to do that, because the status quo is not good enough; we want to do something that is better than what is there already.

The witnesses have outlined quite clearly the scale of the problem in Scotland. Do you have any thoughts or pointers to give on recommendations that the committee might make on protecting the expertise in the current system that is drawn on across the UK to ensure that there is collaboration and to enable us to build on that? Do you have any thoughts on what the committee might want to consider in that respect? I will go to Professor Macdonald first.