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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 August 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Katy Clark

My first question is for Ronnie Renucci, who focused on the fact that, in Scotland, we lack evidence or, indeed, any research to draw any conclusions, and referred to some work that has been done in England, which we will look at. Mr Renucci, could you summarise your understanding of any conclusions or, indeed, lack of conclusions that there might have been in the work on jurors in England that might be relevant to the legislation that we are looking at now? What is your understanding of that research? I appreciate that you did not do the work yourself.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Katy Clark

Are you sure that the Scottish Government has not looked at that kind of evidence? It may well be that it has carried out that work, and that is how it has come to the proposal of eight out of 12. That figure might have been plucked out of the air, or it might be based on evidence. Have you any knowledge of that? Ronnie Renucci, you suggested that it had been plucked out of the air. Are you sure that it was, or do you think that the decision to settle on that figure might be evidence based?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Katy Clark

Thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Katy Clark

That is fine. No problem.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 December 2023

Katy Clark

The regulations apply to

“a person with whom they”—

that is, Social Security Scotland—

“come into contact”.

Who, other than clients, would the organisation come into contact with? How would those people be informed about the use of their information?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 December 2023

Katy Clark

Thank you.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 December 2023

Katy Clark

Can you say any more about how that information will be used and how the person will be informed? What will be the processes in that respect? Will they be similar to what you have just outlined?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 December 2023

Katy Clark

Indeed. I lodged a final bill proposal this morning, but that is for a different discussion.

The 2002 freedom of information legislation enables designation of more bodies. Do you envisage there being provision to extend the range of bodies that are covered, if experience requires it?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 December 2023

Katy Clark

It is proposed that the council be given powers to request information from a very wide range of organisations. Can you justify that? Why are such extensive information-seeking powers proposed?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Katy Clark

I will follow up on that. You referred to the mock jury study, but we have been trying to look at the evidence for what the Scottish Government is proposing. One of our initial questions many months ago was about the data. We wanted to get an understanding of what kind of jury results we get at the moment. To what extent are they unanimous? To what extent are they very narrow results in favour of conviction or acquittal? Do you have any data or impressions about how clear outcomes are on juries? What data—either hard data or impressions—do you have?