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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 August 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Russell Findlay

The police have been doing that for some time. The fire brigade has not yet reached an agreement. Do you have any sense of when an agreement might be reached or otherwise?

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Russell Findlay

If a person intends to take a substance that they have bought thinking that it was a particular substance, and then they get it tested and they find out that it is indeed the substance that they thought it was, the authorities are potentially directing people to take something that could harm them.

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Russell Findlay

We have around five minutes and I have three or four questions, so I will try my best to rattle through them. Suspected drugs deaths were up again in the first six months of the year, by 7 per cent, which I think equates to 600 lost lives. It is absolutely correct that we treat this as a public health issue, but there remains a serious problem with organised crime groups preying on vulnerable people. I have raised concerns about organised crime influencing mainstream sections of society including football and boxing, which I find obscene and outrageous. I seek from the Government some kind of explanation or assurance that the police will continue to have the resources that they need to tackle those parasites.

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Russell Findlay

That might be beneficial to people—

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Russell Findlay

I have a question in response to the issue that was raised by Paul Sweeney—criticism of Police Scotland in relation to drugs consumption rooms. I was quite surprised by that, because my understanding was that Police Scotland has engaged with the Government and has been supportive of the proposal. I would be keen to hear your view on that.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Russell Findlay

I intend to ask only one question, but it feels important to provide some details about a specific case with trauma-informed practice. I have been working with Leslie Jones—

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Russell Findlay

Absolutely, yes. I have been working with Leslie Jones, whose brother Tony was murdered. She attended the killer’s parole hearing and she was told to sit in silence. She objected to his release in writing, fearing for the safety of others. He was subsequently released. She was required to sign a gagging order not to discuss the hearing. Her brother’s killer was then recalled to prison, but Leslie was not told that nor allowed to know why. She found out only because he has another parole hearing. She is consumed by concern, not knowing whether he has harmed somebody else. She has had letters calling her brother “Anthony”, but that is not his name. She has had letters addressed to her dead father. She describes the parole process as secretive and she says that she is

“climbing the walls; the process is tormenting me”.

Leslie’s experiences are quite shocking but all too typical in some respects and they seriously call into question the issue of trauma-informed practice.

Are you confident that the bill will result in victims and their families being treated with dignity, compassion and respect or perhaps, as John Watt already suggested, a ground-up review of practices across the criminal justice agencies would be a better starting point?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Russell Findlay

The only reason why I went into detail was to illustrate how difficult it is for many victims and families. However, the more general point was whether the legislation in the bill will materially or practically fix a lot of these problems. Families like this one have their doubts.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Russell Findlay

Does anyone else have a view on that general question? If not, thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Russell Findlay

Perhaps the clerks can pass on the answer to us.