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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 August 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Russell Findlay

I will be quick, convener. Christine Grahame addressed me directly, so I felt that it would be rude of me not to reply.

I believe that legislation is needed, and urgently, because we need to address the risk to public safety. We all agree that we need to address that. Where we disagree is on how we do that. In the past four weeks, Police Scotland officers have had to shoot dead two dogs in the street, both of which may or may not have been XL bullies. I know that there is an issue with definition, but if members look at the Bully Watch UK material, which is widely available, they will see that a lot of it goes some way towards explaining that.

I find it disappointing that the Scottish Government did not act more quickly. There has been a lot of to-ing and fro-ing about that today, so I will not reheat that. Having heard everything that has been said, I think that it is important that we support the measure.

Criminal Justice Committee

Investigatory Powers (Amendment) Bill

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Russell Findlay

I have a quick observation. I am by no means an expert on the entirety of what is proposed, but I suggest that we support it. One element that caught my eye is the creation of a new measure that requires the Investigatory Powers Commissioner to notify those who have been subject to inappropriate surveillance or suchlike by the authorities. That is pertinent given recent cases, which I cannot go into detail about, in which journalists and their alleged or suspected sources were subject to inappropriate techniques by Police Scotland relating to a serious crime. If the bill helps to tighten that up and put an onus on authorities to inform those who have been subject to such wrongful methods, that can only be a good thing.

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Russell Findlay

You and your officials have talked about the system of dog wardens in Scotland, which are controlled by local authorities. In your answer to my colleague Sharon Dowey a moment ago, you mentioned that 1,200 dogs are subject to dog control notices. Do you happen to know how many dog wardens there are in Scotland?

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Russell Findlay

Minister, you have told us today that there has been a lack of respect towards the Scottish Government. We are perhaps losing sight of what the measures are about, however. They are about preventing children and adults from being maimed and killed by XL bullies. Surely you agree that public protection is paramount rather than constitutional issues or bruised egos within the Scottish Government.

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Russell Findlay

Sure, but the legislation was in the public domain in mid-September; you could have acted more quickly if you had chosen to do so.

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Russell Findlay

Your officials have working connections with officials at UK level. It sounds like you are making excuses.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 February 2024

Russell Findlay

Sure, but if you, as the Government, want to change your own bill, you will surely have to get on with it before then.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 February 2024

Russell Findlay

It has been about three months since NES raised the issue in a written submission to the committee. I put it to you then and we are now three months down the line.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 February 2024

Russell Findlay

I am just wondering whether it is on or off the table.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 February 2024

Russell Findlay

It was in evidence that we heard yesterday.