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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 August 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Russell Findlay

Putting aside the VNS cohort—

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Russell Findlay

Has the list of prisoners that are going to be released already been drawn up?

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Russell Findlay

Sure. Who is allowed to see the list?

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Russell Findlay

Thank you. Convener, I think that I have run out of time.

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Russell Findlay

Will Pauline McNeill take an intervention?

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Russell Findlay

They have poor take-up rates.

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Russell Findlay

The list of prisoners who are going to be released has been shared with the justice agency partners that will deal with it, but victims will find out that up to 550 people are being released early only when they read about it in the media. At that point, they will have to work out that they have to contact one of the four designated organisations, which will then have to ask the SPS to share the information with them, so that they can share it with victims. Am I correct in assuming that, by that time, some of the prisoners will already have been released?

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Russell Findlay

I go back to my question. Under the model that you are proposing, by the time some victims figure out how to get the information the prisoner will already have been released.

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Russell Findlay

The VNS generally applies to prisoners who are serving longer sentences.

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Russell Findlay

I will try to be brief. It is good to acknowledge that there is a starting point, which is that each and every one of those prisoners is there after a full independent judicial process and that sentencing is due to judges, who are privy to the full facts, which we as politicians are not. It is a hugely significant decision to release up to 550 prisoners before the end of their sentences.

The reasons why we are here are threefold: there has been a failure to invest properly in community sentencing, there has been a failure to invest in technology for bail and parole and there has been a failure to build new prisons—not additional prisons, but replacement prisons. I do not buy the apparent surprise when we reach a crisis point, with half the prisons in Scotland at red status.

As we know from Covid, the reality is that, when the mass release takes place, it will result in more crime. There was a 40 per cent reoffending rate within six months the previous time. [Interruption.] There is a bit of a noise here somewhere—sorry.

The multiple Victim Support Scotland submissions to the committee are pretty damning. First, victims are not being told proactively; they will have to ask, and they will have to work out how to do so. Today, I attempted to ask a question on several occasions, which was whether, in some circumstances, the person who perpetrated the crime against a victim would already have been released by the time the victim had established that they were going to be released. I did not get an answer—or I certainly felt that I did not get an answer. All that suggests that victims’ rights are an afterthought at best, and it makes a bit of a mockery of the Scottish Government’s talk of being trauma informed.

The implementation of the measures has been poor. Ultimately—