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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 August 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Russell Findlay

It is that waterfall analogy.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Russell Findlay

I will not ask about body-worn cameras, but I will just note that, in 2012, Grampian Police was the first force to pilot these cameras, so it is nice to see that, after all these years, they will be returning there, operationally.

David Threadgold, you referred to the Lifelines training. More than 1,000 officers and staff have attended that training, and you talked positively about it. Who provides that training? Towards the end of the Police Scotland submission, it says that it is moving towards having 110 officers and staff in the organisation who can facilitate that training, so it is clearly going to be an on-going thing.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Russell Findlay

That is confusing me. We have Lifelines, Vivup, a new occupational health contract, TRiM and pilot schemes in different parts of the force, so the picture seems a bit inconsistent—it is a bit of a patchwork quilt.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Russell Findlay

In England and Wales, there are statutory inquests in such circumstances. My understanding is that none of the eight suicides that we spoke about has been the subject of a fatal accident inquiry and that, in some of those cases, there were potential contributory factors that related to workplace issues. I wonder whether there is a bit of a blind spot in respect of officers who have died in such circumstances. If there is no fatal accident inquiry, such issues could be missed and lessons not learned.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 11 September 2024

Russell Findlay

On the issue of under-18s and assault, according to the SPA, it was decided that police cells are no longer appropriate places to keep under-18s. In a recent tragic case, the details of which I will not go into, someone was released from police custody and committed a serious crime. Do you feel that your hands are tied in respect of your inability to hold under-18s when they potentially pose a danger to officers and the public?

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 September 2024

Russell Findlay

You both have some of each, obviously, but the FRSA mostly represents the more rural areas of Scotland, whereas the FBU more typically represents the central belt and other urban areas. That is a bit of a crude distinction, but I think that it is more or less fair, and that will dictate my line of questioning.

It was 10 months ago that the FBU produced its “Firestorm” report, which made 50 recommendations. How many of those recommendations has the Scottish Government and/or the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service accepted and, of those, how many have been implemented?

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 September 2024

Russell Findlay

Okay.

I have another question that might apply to all of you. Given the dire and dangerous conditions and the lack of decontamination facilities—issues that have been known about for quite some time now—is there any likelihood of legal action being taken? Is that being considered?

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 September 2024

Russell Findlay

I have another quick question. I understand that the SFRS was created 11 years ago and that there were eight legacy brigades. Are the terms and conditions of employment all universal now? Do they go Scotland wide?

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 September 2024

Russell Findlay

Why is that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 September 2024

Russell Findlay

It is not just about the money, then—it is about employment rights and different workplace issues. Right now, there are still eight separate deals in place.